Overnighter

please post the information for those of us that choose not to register to
the LA Times..

BT

"Doug Turner" wrote in message
...
This article seems to have some more information.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1,3369916.sto
ry?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true

No water, no cell phone, no radio.....but they brought
their IPod!!

Frank... I took Cindy's advice and googled it... all involved are ok. Glider
was found with minor damage after a mountain side landing... then next
morning... a cold night in the mountains..
BT

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:6z7lf.21850$pF.16270@fed1read04...
please post the information for those of us that choose not to register to
the LA Times..

BT

"Doug Turner" wrote in message
...
This article seems to have some more information.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1,3369916.sto
ry?coll=la-headlines-california&ctrack=1&cset=true

No water, no cell phone, no radio.....but they brought
their IPod!!

No registration required. Just search "glider great western" from their main
page.

"Gary Boggs" wrote in message
news
I don't want to register on their web site and get even more junk mail.

The Great Western site has very little detail, can anyone post all the
details here please.


"Limus" wrote in message
oups.com...

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...ck=1&cset=true

I am the PIC of the glider that landed out on December 4th. I am
willing to answer any questions with the hope it will help others be
more prepared in a similar situation. . Please only questions or
suggestions, no criticism.

Congratulations on your successful off-field landing. Glad everything
worked out!



Larry

"01" USA







"lessonslearned" wrote in message
oups.com:

I am the PIC of the glider that landed out on December 4th. I am
willing to answer any questions with the hope it will help others be
more prepared in a similar situation. . Please only questions or
suggestions, no criticism.

Do you think an ELT would have been helpful in your case?

Lessonslearnered:

Congratulations on a successful out landing, and congratulations for
not loosing your cool and spinning in which is too common an outcome
when faced with a landing in undesirable terrain. More, thanks for
volunteering to answer some questions.

Some questions I wonder about follow and I would be most interested to
hear your thoughts:

1. Is it true there was a north wind that day?
2. Do you remember being aware of the wind at or near your release
altitude?
3. Did you consider attempting to glide south and landing at El Monte
airport or Bracket Field?
4. Once you decided you were going to land, do you remember what your
thoughts were during the last 1,500 feet or so of the glide?
5. Did you land into the wind?
6. During the last 2,000 feet of the glide, did fear play either a
positive or negative role in decisions and actions?

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and comments.

John O. Graybill

What level of pupil where you flying with? First flight, pre solo,
visiting pilot, what?

Obviously, this time something was different, can you put your finger on it?

What equipment will you be flying with in future?
e.g. Radio? Panel or handheld?
Mobile phone (would you have had coverage?).
Any survival kit?

Were you wearing parachutes? Even if you make a good landing, the canopy
can be used to make shelter, and would perhaps be much more visible than the
glider itself.

W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.).
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"lessonslearned" wrote in message
oups.com...

I am the PIC of the glider that landed out on December 4th. I am
willing to answer any questions with the hope it will help others be
more prepared in a similar situation. Please only questions or
suggestions, no criticism.

The flight was a commercial ride. The winds were light and I did not
notice any drift. I quickly became low in the canyon, which became vary
narrow below. I could not see the valley due to cloud cover so I
immediately picked the safest landing spot. I planned to land going
uphill, made a steep approach before bleeding off all my airspeed. The
glider set down gently into deep brush. My main concern was for my
passenger up front, so I was in constant communication with him
regarding my intentions. We were both confident I would make a safe
landing. I was told later the white glider was easy to spot in the
brush. Things would have been different if there was snow, in which
case a parachute would help. It would have made great blanket. My
passenger said he would fly with me again in July, at which time I will
have an ELT, radio, and water.

The flight was a commercial ride. The winds were light and I did not
notice any drift. I quickly became low in the canyon, which became vary
narrow below. I could not see the valley due to cloud cover so I
immediately picked the safest landing spot. I planned to land going
uphill, made a steep approach before bleeding off all my airspeed. The
glider set down gently into deep brush. My main concern was for my
passenger up front, so I was in constant communication with him
regarding my intentions. We were both confident I would make a safe
landing. I was told later the white glider was easy to spot in the
brush. Things would have been different if there was snow, in which
case a parachute would help. It would have made great blanket. My
passenger said he would fly with me again in July, at which time I will
have an ELT, radio, and water.