I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!

Flyingmonk wrote:
In addition, Glen Ryerson, who built and flown the CH-7 "Miss Nina" in
PA, didn't have any trouble tracking and balancing his blades.

Good ol'Glen. He used to be a Mini-500 supporter too, even had a pic on
his site of Fetters sitting in Miss Nina. And then the big picture
started to emerge.

I found this comment in the Mini-500 owners list:
"I am working on further improving the airflow in the engine compartment
for cooling, this is a still a problem."

"Smitty Two" wrote

Sir, I hope you will not feel singled out by me, but how does abusing
the man's name lend credibility to what appears to be a reasonably
scholarly hypothesis? This is only one example of what I mean when I say
I don't give much credence to either Mr. Fetters or his detractors.
Sarcasm, rudeness, disrespect, arrogance, snottiness, and all the other
exhibits of hostility that permeate both sides of this discussion - and
so many others here - may bring self-righteous snickers to the
like-minded, but do *nothing* to persuade your opponents or the neutral
lurkers.

You are totally missing the extreme emotions associated with this issue.
People have had friend's lives snuffed out, in their eyes, due to this man's
kit. There is no logic that can be associated in this discussion, and
nobody involved really gives a sh*t whether you or others have a warm fuzzy
feeling about the thread. Get it?
--
Jim in NC

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"Morgans" wrote:

"Smitty Two" wrote

Sir, I hope you will not feel singled out by me, but how does abusing
the man's name lend credibility to what appears to be a reasonably
scholarly hypothesis? This is only one example of what I mean when I say
I don't give much credence to either Mr. Fetters or his detractors.
Sarcasm, rudeness, disrespect, arrogance, snottiness, and all the other
exhibits of hostility that permeate both sides of this discussion - and
so many others here - may bring self-righteous snickers to the
like-minded, but do *nothing* to persuade your opponents or the neutral
lurkers.

You are totally missing the extreme emotions associated with this issue.
People have had friend's lives snuffed out, in their eyes, due to this man's
kit. There is no logic that can be associated in this discussion, and
nobody involved really gives a sh*t whether you or others have a warm fuzzy
feeling about the thread. Get it?

By whose authority do you speak for everyone else in the group? The
gentleman to whom I replied has already posted a thank you to me and an
edited version of his comments. I also note that he subsequently
separated his personal rage from his intellectual assessments.

As far as logic being associated with the discussion, there seem to be
quite a few here who are attempting to discuss the facts rationally and
intelligently. My point is, for those who are *genuinely attempting* to
discuss the topic logically, and convince others of the merits of their
arguments, mixing personal hostility into the discussion is
counterproductive.

On the other hand, if your sole objective is to vent rage, please go
ahead. I have no quarrel with that or with you. I am *not* missing the
extreme emotions as you suggest. I understand them and I have compassion
for those who have lost friends and family. And if my comments have
stirred your pain or anger, I'm sorry, as that is not my intention.

"Smitty Two" wrote

By whose authority do you speak for everyone else in the group?

Whatever, smitty two. You need to take yourself and me a bit less
seriously. I do.

I have a hard time taking any nameless person seriously, anyway. Far as I
am concerned, you are just another nameless, paranoid little person with
something to hide, or some other personality issues.

Oh, by the way, on what authority do you speak for me, and the rest of the
group, with this quote?

Sarcasm, rudeness, disrespect, arrogance, snottiness, and all the other
exhibits of hostility that permeate both sides of this discussion - and
so many others here - may bring self-righteous snickers to the
like-minded, but do *nothing* to persuade your opponents or the neutral
lurkers.

Self-righteous snickers to the like-minded? Seems like you are speaking for
the group, here.

.....do *nothing* to persuade your opponents or the neutral lurkers? By what
right do you stipulate the state of mind and reaction, of the group?

Pot kettle black, and plonk.
--
Jim in NC

You are totally missing the extreme emotions associated with this issue.
People have had friend's lives snuffed out, in their eyes, due to this man's
kit. There is no logic that can be associated in this discussion, and
nobody involved really gives a sh*t whether you or others have a warm fuzzy
feeling about the thread. Get it?

Come on, Morgans !!!

I'm ultra logical about discussing the Mini-500.
If you don't believe it, just axe me. ;-)

In fact, I have even observed one that flew over
100 hours before a bearing froze.. knocking it out of the sky.

It was just dumb luck and a measure of skill that saved the pilot
from serious injury or possible death, IMO. No B.S.

This incident took place at Grain Valley Airport
umpteen years ago. The pilot never ever again took
a Mini-500 on another cross country... or out of hover.

I'm dyin' if I'm lyin'.

- Barnyard BOb -

"City Father" wrote

I'm ultra logical about discussing the Mini-500.
If you don't believe it, just axe me. ;-)

In fact, I have even observed one that flew over
100 hours before a bearing froze.. knocking it out of the sky.

It was just dumb luck and a measure of skill that saved the pilot
from serious injury or possible death, IMO. No B.S.

oH gOd! Here we go again. Dennis will surely pop up and defend his
fabulous flying machine, now!

You really need to keep up. Throw the salt on the wounds (or bearings) in a
more timely manner, almost real time, even. Now we have to hear it all
again! g

The only possible good that could come out of this, is that bAdWaTeR BiLL
might come out of his hole and take a couple shots. I might almost pay
money for that! ;-)

The only thing that could have saved the mini, is if it had been powered by
Corvair. It would have been a great machine, then.

Jim (is there a limit on how many hooks I can set on this line?) in NC

The only thing that could have saved the mini, is if it had been powered by
Corvair. It would have been a great machine, then.


Interesting that you mention a Corvair. I used to work with an ex-Army
guy that bought a complete (-engine) Korean-era Bell helicopter in a
crates, packed for long-term storage. He wasn't a pilot, but was a
pretty good mechanic. He built the helicopter, took a lesson, put on a
football helmet, and then crashed it in the trees. He's lucky he didn't
kill himself.

"anon" wrote

Interesting that you mention a Corvair. I used to work with an ex-Army
guy that bought a complete (-engine) Korean-era Bell helicopter in a
crates, packed for long-term storage.

And that relates to Corvair, how?

I didn't follow.
--
Jim in NC

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"Morgans" wrote:

"anon" wrote

Interesting that you mention a Corvair. I used to work with an ex-Army
guy that bought a complete (-engine) Korean-era Bell helicopter in a
crates, packed for long-term storage.

And that relates to Corvair, how?

I'll take a guess...
"UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED", by Ralph Nader

Morgans wrote:
"anon" wrote

Interesting that you mention a Corvair. I used to work with an ex-Army
guy that bought a complete (-engine) Korean-era Bell helicopter in a
crates, packed for long-term storage.

And that relates to Corvair, how?

I didn't follow.

He installed a modified Corvair engine in his old warbird.