Jobs for pilots wtih CP + IR?

Montblack wrote:
("Rachel" wrote)

I have a friend who is a captain (can't remember which airline right
now) and is making somewhere around $40,000, which isn't too bad. The
other guys I know who are flying right seat in turboprops are making
$17,000-$22,000. I don't know if that's next to nothing, but I know
I'd have to give up a lot on that kind of money.



40 hours/week x 50 weeks (the extra 2 weeks are ...extra)

= 2,000 hrs/yr at $1.00/hr ....$2k
= 2,000 hrs/yr at $0.50/hr ....$1k

So, every 50 cents is 1,000 bucks of yearly salary.

(roughly)
$17k ...= $8.50/hr
$20k ...= $10/hr
$22k ...= $11/hr
$40k ...= $20/hr at 40 hrs/week

Or the other way around (approx)
$25/hr ...= $50k
$17/hr ...= $34k
$6/hr ..... = $12k
$5/hr ..... = $10k per year

The extra 2 weeks out of the year are gravy :-)


Montblack

When you put it that way, it's even worse!

"Rachel" wrote in message ...
Jim Macklin wrote:
Are those monthly salaries? Seriously, wages will vary, but a Captain for an airline should earn $40,000-75,000
annually and a co-pilot about half of that as a starting salary. Corporate jobs may even pay more but require more
hours and extra certificates such as A&P.

Bag boys make over $20,000 stuffing bread into "paper or plastic" at the market. Pilots need to learn to insist on a
proper wage, but damn it is so much fun to fly.

LOL, no, yearly. I think I should have clarified that my captain friend is making 40K a year flying CRJ's for a
regional, and he just upgraded (why can't I remember the airline???). The guys I know making 20K are just out of
school commercial pilots with 300 hours.

And don't get me started on the CFI's I know. I hate that most don't take instructing seriously enough to demand
enough money to make a career out of it.


Used to be at the airport 6 days a week for roughly 12 hours each day. Flew 6 or so hours/day. Loved it but only lasted
a couple years...

Read an article about some feeder line that paid the newbie pilots something like $12,500 the first year...and the
pilots paid them something like $10,000 for the type rating.

How do you propose that CFIs demand enough money to make a career out of it? CFIs are paid what the market will bear, no
more...

wrote:



I left commuter flying 10 years ago when I went for a ground job
(dispatcher) for financial survival. Are commuter pilots still making
next to nothing today still? Even with those nice new CRJ's ??

RJ pilots are being paid what they are worth.

Rachel wrote:



I have a friend who is a captain (can't remember which airline right
now) and is making somewhere around $40,000, which isn't too bad. The
other guys I know who are flying right seat in turboprops are making
$17,000-$22,000. I don't know if that's next to nothing, but I know I'd
have to give up a lot on that kind of money.

A friend of a friend is the number one seniority copilot at ASA, based
out of SLC. He stayed a copilot until just recently because of the
schedule. Now that ASA is going to merge he told them he will be a
captain for the last 3 years of his career. He was making $60K as a
copilot and will be making $90K as a captain.

..Blueskies. wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message ...

Jim Macklin wrote:

Are those monthly salaries? Seriously, wages will vary, but a Captain for an airline should earn $40,000-75,000
annually and a co-pilot about half of that as a starting salary. Corporate jobs may even pay more but require more
hours and extra certificates such as A&P.

Bag boys make over $20,000 stuffing bread into "paper or plastic" at the market. Pilots need to learn to insist on a
proper wage, but damn it is so much fun to fly.

LOL, no, yearly. I think I should have clarified that my captain friend is making 40K a year flying CRJ's for a
regional, and he just upgraded (why can't I remember the airline???). The guys I know making 20K are just out of
school commercial pilots with 300 hours.

And don't get me started on the CFI's I know. I hate that most don't take instructing seriously enough to demand
enough money to make a career out of it.



Used to be at the airport 6 days a week for roughly 12 hours each day. Flew 6 or so hours/day. Loved it but only lasted
a couple years...

Read an article about some feeder line that paid the newbie pilots something like $12,500 the first year...and the
pilots paid them something like $10,000 for the type rating.

How do you propose that CFIs demand enough money to make a career out of it? CFIs are paid what the market will bear, no
more...

Yeah, and that's because most people view instructing as a necessary
evil instead of a possible career.

"Rachel" wrote in message ...
.Blueskies. wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message ...

Jim Macklin wrote:

Are those monthly salaries? Seriously, wages will vary, but a Captain for an airline should earn $40,000-75,000
annually and a co-pilot about half of that as a starting salary. Corporate jobs may even pay more but require more
hours and extra certificates such as A&P.

Bag boys make over $20,000 stuffing bread into "paper or plastic" at the market. Pilots need to learn to insist on
a proper wage, but damn it is so much fun to fly.

LOL, no, yearly. I think I should have clarified that my captain friend is making 40K a year flying CRJ's for a
regional, and he just upgraded (why can't I remember the airline???). The guys I know making 20K are just out of
school commercial pilots with 300 hours.

And don't get me started on the CFI's I know. I hate that most don't take instructing seriously enough to demand
enough money to make a career out of it.



Used to be at the airport 6 days a week for roughly 12 hours each day. Flew 6 or so hours/day. Loved it but only
lasted a couple years...

Read an article about some feeder line that paid the newbie pilots something like $12,500 the first year...and the
pilots paid them something like $10,000 for the type rating.

How do you propose that CFIs demand enough money to make a career out of it? CFIs are paid what the market will bear,
no more...

Yeah, and that's because most people view instructing as a necessary evil instead of a possible career.

Just like the teachers at the local schools - who is going to pay them what they are worth? Maybe someday...

..Blueskies. wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message ...

.Blueskies. wrote:

"Rachel" wrote in message ...


Jim Macklin wrote:


Are those monthly salaries? Seriously, wages will vary, but a Captain for an airline should earn $40,000-75,000
annually and a co-pilot about half of that as a starting salary. Corporate jobs may even pay more but require more
hours and extra certificates such as A&P.

Bag boys make over $20,000 stuffing bread into "paper or plastic" at the market. Pilots need to learn to insist on
a proper wage, but damn it is so much fun to fly.

LOL, no, yearly. I think I should have clarified that my captain friend is making 40K a year flying CRJ's for a
regional, and he just upgraded (why can't I remember the airline???). The guys I know making 20K are just out of
school commercial pilots with 300 hours.

And don't get me started on the CFI's I know. I hate that most don't take instructing seriously enough to demand
enough money to make a career out of it.



Used to be at the airport 6 days a week for roughly 12 hours each day. Flew 6 or so hours/day. Loved it but only
lasted a couple years...

Read an article about some feeder line that paid the newbie pilots something like $12,500 the first year...and the
pilots paid them something like $10,000 for the type rating.

How do you propose that CFIs demand enough money to make a career out of it? CFIs are paid what the market will bear,
no more...

Yeah, and that's because most people view instructing as a necessary evil instead of a possible career.


Just like the teachers at the local schools - who is going to pay them what they are worth? Maybe someday...

I don't know, none of my teachers were worth anything until I got to the
university level..

"Rachel" wrote in message ...
.Blueskies. wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message ...

.Blueskies. wrote:

"Rachel" wrote in message ...


Jim Macklin wrote:


Are those monthly salaries? Seriously, wages will vary, but a Captain for an airline should earn $40,000-75,000
annually and a co-pilot about half of that as a starting salary. Corporate jobs may even pay more but require more
hours and extra certificates such as A&P.

Bag boys make over $20,000 stuffing bread into "paper or plastic" at the market. Pilots need to learn to insist
on a proper wage, but damn it is so much fun to fly.

LOL, no, yearly. I think I should have clarified that my captain friend is making 40K a year flying CRJ's for a
regional, and he just upgraded (why can't I remember the airline???). The guys I know making 20K are just out of
school commercial pilots with 300 hours.

And don't get me started on the CFI's I know. I hate that most don't take instructing seriously enough to demand
enough money to make a career out of it.



Used to be at the airport 6 days a week for roughly 12 hours each day. Flew 6 or so hours/day. Loved it but only
lasted a couple years...

Read an article about some feeder line that paid the newbie pilots something like $12,500 the first year...and the
pilots paid them something like $10,000 for the type rating.

How do you propose that CFIs demand enough money to make a career out of it? CFIs are paid what the market will
bear, no more...

Yeah, and that's because most people view instructing as a necessary evil instead of a possible career.


Just like the teachers at the local schools - who is going to pay them what they are worth? Maybe someday...

I don't know, none of my teachers were worth anything until I got to the university level..


Well, I guess you gets what you pays for! ;-)

..Blueskies. wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message ...

.Blueskies. wrote:

"Rachel" wrote in message ...


.Blueskies. wrote:


"Rachel" wrote in message ...



Jim Macklin wrote:



Are those monthly salaries? Seriously, wages will vary, but a Captain for an airline should earn $40,000-75,000
annually and a co-pilot about half of that as a starting salary. Corporate jobs may even pay more but require more
hours and extra certificates such as A&P.

Bag boys make over $20,000 stuffing bread into "paper or plastic" at the market. Pilots need to learn to insist
on a proper wage, but damn it is so much fun to fly.

LOL, no, yearly. I think I should have clarified that my captain friend is making 40K a year flying CRJ's for a
regional, and he just upgraded (why can't I remember the airline???). The guys I know making 20K are just out of
school commercial pilots with 300 hours.

And don't get me started on the CFI's I know. I hate that most don't take instructing seriously enough to demand
enough money to make a career out of it.



Used to be at the airport 6 days a week for roughly 12 hours each day. Flew 6 or so hours/day. Loved it but only
lasted a couple years...

Read an article about some feeder line that paid the newbie pilots something like $12,500 the first year...and the
pilots paid them something like $10,000 for the type rating.

How do you propose that CFIs demand enough money to make a career out of it? CFIs are paid what the market will
bear, no more...

Yeah, and that's because most people view instructing as a necessary evil instead of a possible career.


Just like the teachers at the local schools - who is going to pay them what they are worth? Maybe someday...

I don't know, none of my teachers were worth anything until I got to the university level..



Well, I guess you gets what you pays for! ;-)

I don't know about that....I went to high school in a VERY well paying
district (teachers STARTING at $60,000) and they still sucked. But this
isn't a thread about that. :-)

"Rachel" wrote

I don't know about that....I went to high school in a VERY well paying
district (teachers STARTING at $60,000) and they still sucked. But this
isn't a thread about that. :-)

Where? I may have to consider a move!
--
Jim in NC