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Macklin, with all due respects, since the largest thing you've flown would
fit into a 737 intake duct, why don't you just shut the f*** up and listen
to the people who have flown them.

I've wrenched on them for a few thousand hours and can explain how the
landing gear squat switch works, but I'm not about to do that since my last
honest tweak on them was some forty years ago.

If you don't have direct experience, bug OFF.

Jim



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
newsc5nf.25869$QW2.7007@dukeread08...
Sounds like something that should have been done.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

"lynn" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Above 10 feet radar altimeter, you can manually deploy the
flight
| spoilers (8 panels).
|
| Below 10 feet radar altimeter and engines idle, flight (8
panels) and
| GROUND spoilers (4 panels) are armed and can be manually
deployed prior
| to touchdown, wheels spin-up, or Rt. strut compression.
|

Thank you for your opinion, but I still think my opinion is
valid and you are free to ignore anything you want.

My flying was 95% single pilot, in all weather and in a wide
range of airplanes. I learned to read and interpret on my
own, didn't have a dispatcher or co-pilot. When I did fly
with a crew as captain, my rule was simple, I'm not perfect,
I expect you (the co-pilot) to tell me what you think, I
will NEVER get mad at you unless you don't speak up and we
kill somebody. My co-pilots always seemed happy. I shared
legs but never deferred my authority. I also never made a
crewmember feel useless or ignorant.

The people who have flown the "big iron" seem to agree with
me, except for a few knee-jerk, "don't speak ill about
pilots" and "wait a year" for the NTSB folks. I know the
basic principles on the operation of a Boeing. I've even
taught a few Boeing engineers, USAF KC135 drivers, and
picked their brains to increase my general level of
experience.

BTW, the 737 intake is not quite that big. I would like to
have the ops manual for the SWA and the model Boeing 737 in
question, but I do not. I do not have the MDW weather for
the period before and after and I don't need it to have an
opinion. The NTSB will get all that and more. They will
have the cockpit tapes and the a multi-channel FDR. They
will know whether the crew was properly briefed on the
approach and landing and whether each switch was properly
set. There will be details landing data calculations. In
the end, some causes and factors will be reported.

But until then, somebody might gather a little info and not
have an accident if they hear about a POSSIBLE reason for
this accident.

BTW, wrenching on an airplane and knowing the mechanical
systems does not qualify you to fly that airplane in LIFR
conditions or to even understand the dynamic of a landing
from a pilot's point of view, what are your pilot
credentials and experience? Gee, this can be fun.

--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"RST Engineering" wrote in message
.. .
| Macklin, with all due respects, since the largest thing
you've flown would
| fit into a 737 intake duct, why don't you just shut the
f*** up and listen
| to the people who have flown them.
|
| I've wrenched on them for a few thousand hours and can
explain how the
| landing gear squat switch works, but I'm not about to do
that since my last
| honest tweak on them was some forty years ago.
|
| If you don't have direct experience, bug OFF.
|
| Jim
|
|
|
| "Jim Macklin" wrote
in message
| newsc5nf.25869$QW2.7007@dukeread08...
| Sounds like something that should have been done.
|
|
| --
| James H. Macklin
| ATP,CFI,A&P
|
| "lynn" wrote in message
|
oups.com...
| | Above 10 feet radar altimeter, you can manually deploy
the
| flight
| | spoilers (8 panels).
| |
| | Below 10 feet radar altimeter and engines idle, flight
(8
| panels) and
| | GROUND spoilers (4 panels) are armed and can be
manually
| deployed prior
| | to touchdown, wheels spin-up, or Rt. strut
compression.
| |
|
|
|
|

Jim,

The B-737-700 engine, the CFM56-7, is 61 inches in diameter at the fan
blades.

The BE400
http://www.raytheonaircraft.com/hawk...er_400xp.shtml
External Dimensions

Length
.................................................. ............................................
48 ft. 5 in. (14.76 m)

Height
.................................................. ...........................................
13 ft. 11 in. (4.24 m)

Span.............................................. .................................................. .
43 ft. 6 in. (13.26 m)



Internal

Cabin Dimensions

Length
.................................................. ............................................
15 ft. 6 in. (4.72 m)

Height
.................................................. ..............................................
4 ft. 9 in. (1.45 m)

Width............................................. ..................................................
4 ft. 11 in. (1.50 m)



So the cabin might fix the 737 intake but the rest would be
outside. BTW, what is the relevance of this, is this a my
Johnson is bigger than your Johnson?




--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P


"lynn" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Jim,
|
| The B-737-700 engine, the CFM56-7, is 61 inches in
diameter at the fan
| blades.
|

RST Engineering wrote:

Macklin, with all due respects, since the largest thing you've flown would
fit into a 737 intake duct, why don't you just shut the f*** up and listen
to the people who have flown them.

One does not need to operate a piece of machinery in order to comment on it,
any more than one needs to be a politician to discuss politics. You will be
surprised that many of the NTSB investigators who will officially investigate
this accident haven't flown anything larger than an intake duct too.



I've wrenched on them for a few thousand hours and can explain how the
landing gear squat switch works, but I'm not about to do that since my last
honest tweak on them was some forty years ago.

Good for you.

If you don't have direct experience, bug OFF.

Sorry Jim, you don't have any authority to tell anyone to bug OFF. This is a
public newsgroup. If you don't like someone's opinion feel free to post your
own, but you're not going to stop others from posting here.

--Brian
727 Captain (retired).

I really like the Bill of Rights and it is nice to see
people stand up for it. There is a new movement that says
if you haven't done something, you are not qualified to
comment on or about the subject. I have not committed
murder or rape, done any recreational drugs or flown
anything faster, bigger than the Beechjet 400. But I can
still comment on any of those subjects.

Just to make one of those statements, Tookie killed four
people 25 years ago. If he has really reformed in prison,
that's nice, that means he'll go to Heaven instead of Hell.
But it doesn't mean he still should not be executed. If he
really was reformed, he might even talk about the CRIPS. If
he is executed, all those books he wrote will have a new
dust jacket that will say, "See, you really should behave
yourself."


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm



"Brian Wilson" wrote in message
...
| RST Engineering wrote:
|
| Macklin, with all due respects, since the largest thing
you've flown would
| fit into a 737 intake duct, why don't you just shut the
f*** up and listen
| to the people who have flown them.
|
| One does not need to operate a piece of machinery in order
to comment on it,
| any more than one needs to be a politician to discuss
politics. You will be
| surprised that many of the NTSB investigators who will
officially investigate
| this accident haven't flown anything larger than an intake
duct too.
|
|
|
| I've wrenched on them for a few thousand hours and can
explain how the
| landing gear squat switch works, but I'm not about to do
that since my last
| honest tweak on them was some forty years ago.
|
| Good for you.
|
| If you don't have direct experience, bug OFF.
|
| Sorry Jim, you don't have any authority to tell anyone to
bug OFF. This is a
| public newsgroup. If you don't like someone's opinion
feel free to post your
| own, but you're not going to stop others from posting
here.
|
| --Brian
| 727 Captain (retired).
|

Brian Wilson wrote:

Sorry Jim, you don't have any authority to tell anyone to bug OFF. This is a
public newsgroup. If you don't like someone's opinion feel free to post your
own, but you're not going to stop others from posting here.

Brian, thanks for that. There are some incredibly over-inflated egos in
this group, and it's refreshing to see that not all of you high-timers
share that personality defect.

--
Peter