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Old December 12th 05, 02:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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this week.. $2.95 100LL
BT

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Last week it was $3.05 self serve.. be interesting to see this weeks.

I'm waiting.. not holding my breath.. for when the local flight school
drops the surcharge he added when the prices were up.

BT

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Couldn't believe my eyes.

I pulled up to the pumps today at my home base of Old Bridge, NJ (3N6) to
find AVGAS at $3.15/gallon (cash), down from a high of $4.15 IIRC. I
haven't seen it that low since well before the recent runup (probably two
years). Never thought I'd see the day when I was actually glad to pay
$3.15 a gallon, but it's here.

Oddly enough, the airport manager told me several weeks ago that the
first decline (to $3.85) wouldn't be the last, so the distributor must
have seen the change in the market coming.

As we shutdown at the pumps and gazed at the price in disbelief I said to
my partner - "Hey, want to top off and go up again? Talk about an excuse
to fly!" He said "Na, gotta get going, but let's fill up a few 5 gallon
cans for next time just in case it goes back up! :-)"

Finally, some good news in aviation. We can actually afford to fly
again. Let that be a lesson to all the assholes in this business who are
overcharging us -- from the refiners, to the distributors, and ESPECIALLY
the FBOs. I mean, I don't expect anyone to work for free, but my
philosophy is that a business can either make a reasonable amount of
money on volume or nothing at all when I don't fly. The best long-term
business strategy seems clear to me.

-Doug

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Old December 12th 05, 03:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote

My Mogas station is at the departure end of ANE's runway 27.

We're at a Twin Cities low of $2.07 on Sunday morning, BTW :-)


We saw 1.91, mostly 1.97 around here for mogas, about a week ago. The price
is already going back up.

I heard rumors of 3 bucks for mogas by new years. ****.

What is the excuse, this time? Oh I know, sunspots, home heating oil
demands, or one of many nonsensical reasons. I think it is safe to say that
Avgas will follow suite.


Anyone got a spare 500 gallon tank laying around? :-(
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Jim in NC

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Old December 12th 05, 04:15 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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$2.95? OK you win. Here in CT I think I paid $3.85 for a top-off two
weeks ago at Danbury.

Geez, just two years ago I was paying 1.99 self serve at Groton CT &
Columbia Co. NY.

Oy.

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Old December 12th 05, 05:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Geez...when I see $2.00-$2.30 per liter for our foreign friends, I feel
pretty humble at $3.50 per gallon in the US!!!!!!

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Old December 12th 05, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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skym wrote:

Geez...when I see $2.00-$2.30 per liter for our foreign friends, I feel
pretty humble at $3.50 per gallon in the US!!!!!!


Keep in mind that they pay that kind of money for mogas, too.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.
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Old December 12th 05, 07:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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George Patterson wrote:
skym wrote:
Geez...when I see $2.00-$2.30 per liter for our foreign friends, I feel
pretty humble at $3.50 per gallon in the US!!!!!!


Keep in mind that they pay that kind of money for mogas, too.


Yes, but they pay less income tax and get a month off every year. I
think that works out well for people that fly/drive less. It is sort
of a 'pay per use' system. I guess it all works out in the end.

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Old December 12th 05, 07:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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They also have national health care. If I didn't have to pay through the
nose for private health insurance, I could afford to fly a lot more, even at
higher fuel prices.

Seth

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George Patterson wrote:
skym wrote:
Geez...when I see $2.00-$2.30 per liter for our foreign friends, I feel
pretty humble at $3.50 per gallon in the US!!!!!!


Keep in mind that they pay that kind of money for mogas, too.


Yes, but they pay less income tax and get a month off every year. I
think that works out well for people that fly/drive less. It is sort
of a 'pay per use' system. I guess it all works out in the end.



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Old December 12th 05, 07:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The health care comes out of all the taxes.

My top income tax rate is 50% plus a sales tax (VAT) 17.5%.

But I do get 6 weeks paid vacation which I use to spend all my hard earned
money in the US. 4days in NYC in Feb, 2 weeks in Wisconsin in July (inc
Oshkosh) and 2 weeks starting Saturday in Florida.

The luxury of paying $3 a gallon.

"Seth Masia" wrote in message
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They also have national health care. If I didn't have to pay through the
nose for private health insurance, I could afford to fly a lot more, even
at higher fuel prices.

Seth

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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George Patterson wrote:
skym wrote:
Geez...when I see $2.00-$2.30 per liter for our foreign friends, I feel
pretty humble at $3.50 per gallon in the US!!!!!!


Keep in mind that they pay that kind of money for mogas, too.


Yes, but they pay less income tax and get a month off every year. I
think that works out well for people that fly/drive less. It is sort
of a 'pay per use' system. I guess it all works out in the end.





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Old December 12th 05, 07:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Flyingmonk wrote:

Yes, but they pay less income tax and get a month off every year.


The income taxes are higher. So are sales taxes.

George Patterson
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your slightly older self.
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Old December 13th 05, 05:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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George Patterson wrote:
skym wrote:
Geez...when I see $2.00-$2.30 per liter for our foreign friends, I feel
pretty humble at $3.50 per gallon in the US!!!!!!


Keep in mind that they pay that kind of money for mogas, too.


Yes, but they pay less income tax and get a month off every year.



Pardon?

In much of Europe, taxes are 50% for even middle incomes. And then there's
VATs...



 




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