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Old December 16th 05, 06:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"John Gaquin" wrote in message IIRC, on the 727, nose gear compression is
also required
for autospoiler deployment.


On the B-727, autospoilers deploy upon compression of the left main strut.

D.


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Old December 16th 05, 02:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Capt.Doug" wrote

On the B-727, autospoilers deploy upon compression of the left main
strut.


The rest of the story..........


AUTOSPEEDBRAKES
When on the ground, the autospeedbrake system will automatically
extend the spoilers whenever reverse thrust is used, regardless
of whether the speedbrake handle has been placed in the ARM detent.
This ensures that the spoilers will be extended for every landing
and rejected takeoff.
If the speedbrake lever is placed in the ARM detent before landing,
the autospeedbrake system will automatically extend the spoilers
when the airplane is firmly on the ground. If a go-around in
initiated after landing, the speedbrake lever automatically returns
to the DN position when the No. 1 or No. 3 throttle is advanced to
go-around thrust.

If the speedbrake lever is not in the ARM detent, the lever will
automatically be raised out of the DN detent to the ARM detent
whenever either the No. 1 or No. 2 reverse thrust lever is moved
into idle reverse.

The autospeedbrake system includes a motor that will, on signal,
drive the speedbrake lever to the uP or DN position. System
operation is confirmed by observing speedbrake lever movement.

The autospeedbrake motor always runs to the up or down limit of
the speedbrake lever and then shuts off. Thereafter, manual
operation will slip the motor clutch and the speedbrake lever will
remain in the manually selected position.

An electrical malfunction of the automatic speedbrake system is
indicated by illumination of the SPEED BRAKE DO NOT ARM light when
the speedbrake lever is set in the ARM detent.

The SPEED BRAKE DO NOT ARM light will also illuminate after landing
when the airplane's wheel speed is below 60 kt.

To automatically extend the spoilers, the following interlocks
and logic must be satisfied:
• The speedbrake lever must be in the ARM detent. This provision
is bypassed by either the No. 1 or No. 2 reverse lever being
in the idle reverse position.
• The airplane must be on the ground (as determined by the left
main gear) or one wheel on each main gear must have attained a
.. speed of over 60 kt.
• No. 1 and No. 3 throttle at idle position.
• No retract signal to the autospeedbrake motor re-tract relay.

The autospeedbrake system can be overridden manually at any time.
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Old December 16th 05, 10:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bob Moore" wrote in message The rest of the story..........
AUTOSPEEDBRAKES


Many thanks. I'm on a trip right now, but even I was in my office, our 727
manuals sucked pretty bad. On my oral exam with the Feds, I mentioned that
the CSDs on some of our ******* fleet were cooled by fan air instead of
ejectors. He asked me to find it in our manuals and of course it wasn't in
there.

D.


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Old December 17th 05, 07:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Capt.Doug" wrote in message news:CXsof.293843

"John Gaquin" wrote in message IIRC, on the 727, nose gear compression
is

also required
for autospoiler deployment.


On the B-727, autospoilers deploy upon compression of the left main strut.


You're absolutely right. My apologies. Your response prompted the
aforementioned reference trip to the basement, where I was re-reminded that
it is the autobrakes that require the nose gear to be on the ground (in
certain models). Mea Culpa.


 




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