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"Hilton" wrote in message
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No, but were instrument rated and it was a Commander. It may have been a
legality issue (currency etc) that cause them to go VFR, I don't know.


Doesn't sound like they were too concerned about legalities. Scud running
all the way from RHV along Hwy 101 below 500' would surely run afoul of FAR
91.119.

On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 21:31:05 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:


"Hilton" wrote in message
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No, but were instrument rated and it was a Commander. It may have been a
legality issue (currency etc) that cause them to go VFR, I don't know.


Doesn't sound like they were too concerned about legalities. Scud running
all the way from RHV along Hwy 101 below 500' would surely run afoul of FAR
91.119.

I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

Q99 was the departure point immediately before the crash, and the
crash scene (going by a map in the newspaper) was 2 miles away, into
rising terrain, more or less along a crosswind departure leg, assuming
a takeoff to the south. That'd be orthogonal to 101.

The accident report says the departure point was "Santa Clara," but
that's just part of Q99's full name.

I apologize if I'm trying to teach my grandma to suck eggs here.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:
I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

your charts aren't up to date!.. it is now called E16.

--Sylvain

"Don Tuite" wrote in message
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I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

Q99 was the departure point immediately before the crash, and the
crash scene (going by a map in the newspaper) was 2 miles away, into
rising terrain, more or less along a crosswind departure leg, assuming
a takeoff to the south. That'd be orthogonal to 101.

The accident report says the departure point was "Santa Clara," but
that's just part of Q99's full name.

I apologize if I'm trying to teach my grandma to suck eggs here.


From Hilton's message:

"A couple of years ago, a CFI and Commercial student hit the hills in
similar
conditions although it was day time. Scud ran all the way from RHV along
Hwy 101 below 500' in a Commander and then ran into the hills when they
tried to get through next to the reservoir near Hollister (heading into the
valley)."

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:05:39 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

From Hilton's message:

"A couple of years ago, a CFI and Commercial student hit the hills in
similar
conditions although it was day time. Scud ran all the way from RHV along
Hwy 101 below 500' in a Commander and then ran into the hills when they
tried to get through next to the reservoir near Hollister (heading into the
valley)."

Oh. Getting old. That's why I apologize in advance these days.

Don

Don Tuite wrote:
I'm confused. Was that how they originally got to South County
Airport? (Q99)

Q99 was the departure point immediately before the crash, and the
crash scene (going by a map in the newspaper) was 2 miles away, into
rising terrain, more or less along a crosswind departure leg, assuming
a takeoff to the south. That'd be orthogonal to 101.

The accident report says the departure point was "Santa Clara," but
that's just part of Q99's full name.

Don, the info I gave above pertained to a different accident that occured in
2003; aircraft departed RHV. The most-recent accident did depart Q99 (now
E16). Sorry for the confusion, but someone asked me for more info on the
2003 Commander accident.

Hilton

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Hilton wrote:

No, but were instrument rated and it was a Commander. It may have been a
legality issue (currency etc) that cause them to go VFR, I don't know.


Doesn't sound like they were too concerned about legalities. Scud
running all the way from RHV along Hwy 101 below 500' would surely run
afoul of FAR 91.119.

I'm still not sure why they felt scud-running all the way down 101 to the
reservoir, then flying into higher terrain was safer than a 30 second IFR
climb though the layer. The obvious options a
1. Neither was current
2. Aircraft wasn't legal IFR
3. Major delay getting out of RHV (SJC traffic does cause a delay)

Note: This refers to the 2003 accident.

Hilton