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Hilton wrote:
Jay Honeck wrote: And also perhaps another example (together with the stats) that Private pilots need more (real) instrument time that what's required by Part 61. Do you really think that would have helped? Yes Jay, I do believe training improves a pilot's skills. This was more of a judgment issue than a flying skills issue. Most pilot training, at least short of the airline's CRM training, rarely covers much about judgment. Some instructors are much better in this regard than others, but it simply isn't high on the list typically. Matt |
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Matt Whiting wrote:
This was more of a judgment issue than a flying skills issue. Most pilot training, at least short of the airline's CRM training, rarely covers much about judgment. Some instructors are much better in this regard than others, but it simply isn't high on the list typically. I totally agree. Please see my reply to "Morgans". Our certificate requirements include very little about decision making, and clearly not enough instrument training for the Private. While these are the leading causes of fatal accidents, the PTS changes are primarily maneuvers additions and removals. For example, if our 3 hours of instrument Private training was sufficient, the why do non-IFR Private pilots only last 178 seconds in IMC? Hilton |
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Hilton wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: This was more of a judgment issue than a flying skills issue. Most pilot training, at least short of the airline's CRM training, rarely covers much about judgment. Some instructors are much better in this regard than others, but it simply isn't high on the list typically. I totally agree. Please see my reply to "Morgans". Our certificate requirements include very little about decision making, and clearly not enough instrument training for the Private. While these are the leading causes of fatal accidents, the PTS changes are primarily maneuvers additions and removals. For example, if our 3 hours of instrument Private training was sufficient, the why do non-IFR Private pilots only last 178 seconds in IMC? I almost wonder if it would be better to not require the hood time at all. I wonder if it doesn't build a false sense of security as any instrument pilot knows that three hours just isn't sufficient to give you any real capability at all, especially if you don't get recurrent hood training. I thought that hood flying was pretty easy when I got my private. Then I began instrument training and had to not only fly the airplane, but talk to ATC, navigate, check the weather, handle equipment failures, etc. All of a sudden, it didn't seem so easy ... until about 40 hours later! :-) Matt |
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On 2006-01-01, Matt Whiting wrote:
I almost wonder if it would be better to not require the hood time at all. I wonder if it doesn't build a false sense of security as any instrument pilot knows that three hours just isn't sufficient to give you any real capability at all, especially if you don't get recurrent hood training. On the flip side - how many pilots does hood training save? This is simply an unknown. If the hood training means more pilots manage to save themselves when they do screw up compared to how many would be lost in the same situation, then it's worth keeping. The trouble is it's very difficult to measure. How many non-IFR pilots make an ASRS report when they get themselves in a VFR-into-IMC situation? The trouble is to have a good study of it you have to ask pilots to incriminate themselves and face FAA action if you're to find the ones who have a false sense of security and deliberately enter IMC without the rating. |
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Recently, Hilton posted:
Matt Whiting wrote: This was more of a judgment issue than a flying skills issue. Most pilot training, at least short of the airline's CRM training, rarely covers much about judgment. Some instructors are much better in this regard than others, but it simply isn't high on the list typically. I totally agree. Please see my reply to "Morgans". Our certificate requirements include very little about decision making, and clearly not enough instrument training for the Private. Being able to teach decision making is the one difference between trainers/schools. I don't know how any of these "quick-course" schools can teach good decision making, as the student doesn't have any practical experience to associate with the theory (even if they could remember the theory, which test scores suggest otherwise). This case is a prime example of someone not knowing when to make a "no-go" decision. While these are the leading causes of fatal accidents, the PTS changes are primarily maneuvers additions and removals. For example, if our 3 hours of instrument Private training was sufficient, the why do non-IFR Private pilots only last 178 seconds in IMC? Simple: because they don't use 90 of those seconds to reverse course and get out of IMC. Those that do so survivie and don't become part of the statistic. Neil |
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