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Old December 31st 05, 06:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
power to the jury and the political bosses, want their "fair
trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows of
or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
nullification will be excluded. If a lawyer brings it
during the trial the judge will probably declare a mistrial
and the attorney in contempt. I've even heard of people
handing out literature near the court house being arrested
for jury tampering [which it is not.].

New Jersey state laws violate many traditional American
values, that's why it is known as the "people's Republic of
New Jersey."


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"George Patterson" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
|
| Jury nullification, a great American tradition, that you
| won't be told about in court.
|
| In New Jersey, you will be told that it's illegal. At
least, I was told that
| when I was called for jury selection.
|
| George Patterson
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| your slightly older self.


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Old January 1st 06, 05:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jim Macklin wrote:
It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
power to the jury and the political bosses, want their "fair
trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows of
or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
nullification will be excluded.


No, it is illegal in New Jersey. The Jersey law stems from a particularly
viscious murder case in the late 80s. The State asked for the death penalty and
one juror made up his mind ahead of time that he was not going to vote to
convict because he had strong feelings about the death penalty. That resulted in
a hung jury and a retrial. The State could not ask for the death penalty at the
second trial (that would be double jeopardy).

The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and
you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned about this during jury
selection.

George Patterson
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Old January 1st 06, 09:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned about this during jury selection.

Try =what= in New Jersey?

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Old January 2nd 06, 01:01 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jose" wrote in message ...
The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it again in New Jersey, and you will spend a few years
in prison. You will be warned about this during jury selection.


Try =what= in New Jersey?


A juror ADMITTING that he had made up his mind before the trial


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Old January 1st 06, 09:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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That law is probably unconstitutional. If a juror makes up
their mind before a trial, then that is a violation of the
duty of a juror. But if during a trial, the evidence
presented leads a juror to decide that the law or its
application in the case is wrong, a juror can vote any way
they want.

Seems that the case you cited was poorly tried and the jury
not screened well enough by the state.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"George Patterson" wrote in message
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| Jim Macklin wrote:
| It isn't illegal anywhere in the USA, but since it gives
| power to the jury and the political bosses, want their
"fair
| trials" to have the desired result, any juror who knows
of
| or speaks about the term, let alone knows about jury
| nullification will be excluded.
|
| No, it is illegal in New Jersey. The Jersey law stems from
a particularly
| viscious murder case in the late 80s. The State asked for
the death penalty and
| one juror made up his mind ahead of time that he was not
going to vote to
| convict because he had strong feelings about the death
penalty. That resulted in
| a hung jury and a retrial. The State could not ask for the
death penalty at the
| second trial (that would be double jeopardy).
|
| The legislature passed a law shortly thereafter. Try it
again in New Jersey, and
| you will spend a few years in prison. You will be warned
about this during jury
| selection.
|
| George Patterson
| Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by
rights belong to
| your slightly older self.


 




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