Some bad controllers

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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What ATC and/or pilot
action toggles the action to closure?


Pilot: Lands.

ATC: Observes pilot land.

That's it. Flight plan is now closed.

Here's where I, and I suspect many others, have the hole in our
understanding. Isn't the flight plan in some FAA computers somewhere? And
doesn't some record need to be deleted? Maybe the plan will eventually
evaporate if no more action is taken? Surely it can't be deleted just
because Approach handed off to Tower - the pilot may need to fly a missed.

-- David Brooks

"David Brooks" wrote in message
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Here's where I, and I suspect many others, have the hole in our
understanding. Isn't the flight plan in some FAA computers somewhere?


It may be, or it may have already timed out.



And doesn't some record need to be deleted?


No, it doesn't need to be deleted. If it's still in the computer it will
time out shortly. Remember, you've reached the destination airport. You're
at the end of the line. There's nobody to relay any information to.



Maybe the plan will eventually evaporate if no more action is taken?


'Zackly.



Surely it can't be deleted just because Approach handed off to
Tower - the pilot may need to fly a missed.


Which will require manual coordination whether or not the flight plan is
still in the system.

And don't call me Shirley.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"David Brooks" wrote in message
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Here's where I, and I suspect many others, have the hole in our
understanding. Isn't the flight plan in some FAA computers somewhere?


It may be, or it may have already timed out.



And doesn't some record need to be deleted?


No, it doesn't need to be deleted. If it's still in the computer it will
time out shortly. Remember, you've reached the destination airport.
You're
at the end of the line. There's nobody to relay any information to.


Ok, the closest I can get to the ATC computers is what I see reported on
fboweb flight tracking. (Thanks for the explanation of the routing codes
you gave me before). Sometimes at the end of the flight it displays a
status of "Timed out". Other times "Canceled". Other times it displays
"Arrived". So what is it that a controller does to the ATC computer to
cause it to go into an "Arrived" state?

Thanks,
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ

"John Clonts" wrote in message
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Ok, the closest I can get to the ATC computers is what I see reported on
fboweb flight tracking. (Thanks for the explanation of the routing codes
you gave me before). Sometimes at the end of the flight it displays a
status of "Timed out". Other times "Canceled". Other times it displays
"Arrived". So what is it that a controller does to the ATC computer to
cause it to go into an "Arrived" state?


Nothing. There is no "Arrived" function in NAS flight data processing. I
have no idea what the source for that is.