Some bad controllers

Matthew S. Whiting wrote:
Newps wrote:



Matthew S. Whiting wrote:

Does the ATC controller then intiate SAR if the pilot hasn't called
in within 30 minutes or so?



You are never out of contact with ATC, how could this be a factor.


There are lots of airports here in northern PA where you can't talk to
the controller on the ground after landing.

Well a few minutes ago we were talking about landing at towered
airports. My comments were directed at those circumstances. landing at
uncontrolled fields is a different matter.




I'm real nervous now if you are telling me

that it is up to the last controller to initiate SAR if a flight plan
isn't closed by the pilot.

Yes, it is.



I always assumed some computer somewhere

kept track of open flight plans and automatically kicked something
out if one was still open at some time past the ETA.

The computer does not keep track like you think. A human controller does.





Not for IFR, just VFR.


Interesting that a VFR flight plan is more automated than an IFR flight
plan.

I didn't say that. There's a lot more automation with an IFR flight plan.

Newps wrote:


Matthew S. Whiting wrote:

Interesting that a VFR flight plan is more automated than an IFR
flight plan.


I didn't say that. There's a lot more automation with an IFR flight plan.

I was speaking relative to closing it and initiating SAR if needed.
Sounds like a VFR flight plan is more automated in that sense.


Matt

"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I was speaking relative to closing it and initiating SAR if needed.
Sounds like a VFR flight plan is more automated in that sense.


How are VFR flight plans automated?

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I was speaking relative to closing it and initiating SAR if needed.
Sounds like a VFR flight plan is more automated in that sense.



How are VFR flight plans automated?



I thought Newps said that a VFR flight plan has a means for automatic
notification of someone if it isn't closed within the tolerance. I
personally don't have a clue how these are handled.


Matt

"Matthew S. Whiting" wrote in message
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I thought Newps said that a VFR flight plan has a means for automatic
notification of someone if it isn't closed within the tolerance. I
personally don't have a clue how these are handled.


Newps is not a reliable information source.

Matthew S. Whiting wrote:


I thought Newps said that a VFR flight plan has a means for automatic
notification of someone if it isn't closed within the tolerance.

Yes, there is. Once you open your VFR flight plan the guy at FSS will
get a message on a screen that says N123 is xx minutes overdue. Each
region sets its own parameters as to when that notification comes, never
more than 30 minutes after the filed time.