Aspen at night

You design an approach, have special equipment and training,
have the FAA flight check the approach. You do not just
look at a sectional and make up something.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
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But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
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"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
| Ron Garret wrote:
|
| In article N9luf.38962$QW2.6921@dukeread08,
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| Private non-published approach.
|
| Cool. How do I get me one of those?
|
| You look at a sectional of that area and plot a course.
Input
| appropriate points into your GPS unit flight plan. With
each point is
| an associated minimum altitude. Flight check in VFR
conditions before
| use. Verify that you won't kill anyone on the ground if
off course.
| Don't carry passengers when in IMC conditions flying the
approach. Of
| course this would be "illegal."
|
| I just read the full narrative of the screwup (accident).
I missed
| where they went wrong. Since they impacted short of the
runway I
| would have to assume that they went below MDA too soon.
However it
| seemed like they were saying they had the airport in
sight.
|
| Ron Lee

Of course someone fails to see the humor in my post which was in
response to the humor of the prior poster (no smiley needed to detect
sarcasm)

Ron Lee



"Jim Macklin" wrote:

You design an approach, have special equipment and training,
have the FAA flight check the approach. You do not just
look at a sectional and make up something.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
| Ron Garret wrote:
|
| In article N9luf.38962$QW2.6921@dukeread08,
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| Private non-published approach.
|
| Cool. How do I get me one of those?
|
| You look at a sectional of that area and plot a course.
Input
| appropriate points into your GPS unit flight plan. With
each point is
| an associated minimum altitude. Flight check in VFR
conditions before
| use. Verify that you won't kill anyone on the ground if
off course.
| Don't carry passengers when in IMC conditions flying the
approach. Of
| course this would be "illegal."
|
| I just read the full narrative of the screwup (accident).
I missed
| where they went wrong. Since they impacted short of the
runway I
| would have to assume that they went below MDA too soon.
However it
| seemed like they were saying they had the airport in
sight.
|
| Ron Lee

I've been talking with a number of aircraft accident
investigators who have found the homemade approach in the
cockpit that led directly to the accident.

Don't find that much humor in giving instruction for
suicide.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
| Of course someone fails to see the humor in my post which
was in
| response to the humor of the prior poster (no smiley
needed to detect
| sarcasm)
|
| Ron Lee
|
|
|
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| You design an approach, have special equipment and
training,
| have the FAA flight check the approach. You do not just
| look at a sectional and make up something.
|
|
| --
| James H. Macklin
| ATP,CFI,A&P
|
| --
| The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
| But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| some support
| http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
| See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and
duties.
|
|
| "Ron Lee" wrote in message
| ...
| | Ron Garret wrote:
| |
| | In article N9luf.38962$QW2.6921@dukeread08,
| | "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
| |
| | Private non-published approach.
| |
| | Cool. How do I get me one of those?
| |
| | You look at a sectional of that area and plot a course.
| Input
| | appropriate points into your GPS unit flight plan.
With
| each point is
| | an associated minimum altitude. Flight check in VFR
| conditions before
| | use. Verify that you won't kill anyone on the ground
if
| off course.
| | Don't carry passengers when in IMC conditions flying
the
| approach. Of
| | course this would be "illegal."
| |
| | I just read the full narrative of the screwup
(accident).
| I missed
| | where they went wrong. Since they impacted short of
the
| runway I
| | would have to assume that they went below MDA too soon.
| However it
| | seemed like they were saying they had the airport in
| sight.
| |
| | Ron Lee
|
|
|

"Jim Macklin" wrote:

I've been talking with a number of aircraft accident
investigators who have found the homemade approach in the
cockpit that led directly to the accident.

Don't find that much humor in giving instruction for
suicide.

Jim, we both know that pilots can and do commit errors that kill them
and others. Only an idiot would have taken my comment seriously and
made such an approach to an area like Aspen.

Ron Lee

Sad fact is there are idiots out there and on-line.
Sometimes I feel like an idiot too, but the feeling will
pass.

Jim


"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
| "Jim Macklin"
wrote:
|
| I've been talking with a number of aircraft accident
| investigators who have found the homemade approach in the
| cockpit that led directly to the accident.
|
| Don't find that much humor in giving instruction for
| suicide.
|
| Jim, we both know that pilots can and do commit errors
that kill them
| and others. Only an idiot would have taken my comment
seriously and
| made such an approach to an area like Aspen.
|
| Ron Lee

Jim Macklin wrote:

You design an approach, have special equipment and training,
have the FAA flight check the approach. You do not just
look at a sectional and make up something.


Before the FAA will flight-check the approach, they will examine every
bit of your design's obstacle clearance, which they well should.

....especially at Aspen....