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You're ignoring the many STC's which allow GA aircraft to run on mogas, not
to mention the Rotax and Jabiru engines which power many of the new light sport aircraft, and typically run better on mogas than on 100LL. Your statement that "Diesels are the future" is just as true today as it was in 1983, when I was given a diesel-powered company car. Diesel was "the future" then, just as it is today, and just as it probably will still be 20 years from now. "Montblack" wrote in message ... ("George Patterson" wrote) You're one of very few, then. The diesels cost significantly more money to buy and the fuel isn't that much cheaper than gasoline. 100LL is more $$ than Jet-A by an amount that is not insignificant. 50%? Couple that with performance (fuel burn) numbers and the choice is obvious - a double savings. Also, Jet-A will continue to be available. Will 100LL? Sure, for a price - small market, and shrinking! Diesels are the future (more shrinking 100LL market). Start building them and the prices *should* fall. Montblacksootyexhaust 1984 Diesel Rabbit - 52 mpg, day in day out. |
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("Lakeview Bill" wrote)
You're ignoring the many STC's which allow GA aircraft to run on mogas, not to mention the Rotax and Jabiru engines which power many of the new light sport aircraft, and typically run better on mogas than on 100LL. Many STC's, a few Rotix(pl), fewer Jabiru's ...but what percentage of the GA fleet have these engines? 10%? 15%? 20%? 1 in 4? http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/544-full.html#191294 Welcome To The New Year ... And New Aircraft A New Light Twin In The Works In Italy "Tecnam (plane link below), an aviation company based in Italy, has announced that it will build a new -- high wing -- light twin called the P2006T, which will be fully FAR 33 certificated and sell for under $300,000. First flight is scheduled for September 2006, with first customer deliveries expected in 2007. The new P2006T will feature retractable gear and hydraulic constant-speed props with feathering. Predicted performance figures for the P2006T include a cruise of 147 knots, 53-knot stall, a rate of climb of 1,400 ft/min (350 ft/min on one engine), an empty weight of about 1,400 pounds, and a useful load of about 1,000 pounds. "We expect it to debut in the U.S. at Sun 'n Fun in 2007," Lynne Birmingham, the acting U.S. agent for Tecnam Italy, told AVweb on Saturday. "We're actively pursuing the training market." The four-seat twin will have an optional glass panel and two Rotax 912 engines with 100 hp each. It was designed by Luigi Pascale, who also designed the sleek Partenavia twin, Birmingham said. Tecnam said it decided in favor of the Rotax engines for reasons of weight saving and cost -- not only purchase price, but also for low-cost maintenance and operation." http://www.tecnamaircraft.com/Tecnam_P2006T.htm Twin Rotax 912's Montblack DA42 Twin Star sounds like a better all around deal. We'll see. |
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![]() "Montblack" wrote in message ... ("Lakeview Bill" wrote) You're ignoring the many STC's which allow GA aircraft to run on mogas, not to mention the Rotax and Jabiru engines which power many of the new light sport aircraft, and typically run better on mogas than on 100LL. Many STC's, a few Rotix(pl), fewer Jabiru's ...but what percentage of the GA fleet have these engines? 10%? 15%? 20%? 1 in 4? http://www.avweb.com/eletter/archives/avflash/544-full.html#191294 Welcome To The New Year ... And New Aircraft A New Light Twin In The Works In Italy "Tecnam (plane link below), an aviation company based in Italy, has announced that it will build a new -- high wing -- light twin called the P2006T, which will be fully FAR 33 certificated and sell for under $300,000. First flight is scheduled for September 2006, with first customer deliveries expected in 2007. The new P2006T will feature retractable gear and hydraulic constant-speed props with feathering. Predicted performance figures for the P2006T include a cruise of 147 knots, 53-knot stall, a rate of climb of 1,400 ft/min (350 ft/min on one engine), an empty weight of about 1,400 pounds, and a useful load of about 1,000 pounds. "We expect it to debut in the U.S. at Sun 'n Fun in 2007," Lynne Birmingham, the acting U.S. agent for Tecnam Italy, told AVweb on Saturday. "We're actively pursuing the training market." The four-seat twin will have an optional glass panel and two Rotax 912 engines with 100 hp each. It was designed by Luigi Pascale, who also designed the sleek Partenavia twin, Birmingham said. Tecnam said it decided in favor of the Rotax engines for reasons of weight saving and cost -- not only purchase price, but also for low-cost maintenance and operation." http://www.tecnamaircraft.com/Tecnam_P2006T.htm Twin Rotax 912's Montblack DA42 Twin Star sounds like a better all around deal. We'll see. Another company making a mistake and installing Rotax engines with their unobtainum customer support. |
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![]() "Montblack" wrote in message ... ("Lakeview Bill" wrote) You're ignoring the many STC's which allow GA aircraft to run on mogas, not to mention the Rotax and Jabiru engines which power many of the new light sport aircraft, and typically run better on mogas than on 100LL. Many STC's, a few Rotix(pl), fewer Jabiru's ...but what percentage of the GA fleet have these engines? 10%? 15%? 20%? 1 in 4? A whole lot bigger percentage than have diesels. |
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("Gig 601XL Builder" wrote)
Many STC's, a few Rotix(pl), fewer Jabiru's ...but what percentage of the GA fleet have these engines? 10%? 15%? 20%? 1 in 4? A whole lot bigger percentage than have diesels. I wonder what it is: If you eliminate Class B and Class C airport fuel sales, how much Jet-A is sold vs. 100LL everywhere else? (Mogas planes are on their own) Montblack |
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On 2006-01-03, Lakeview Bill wrote:
Your statement that "Diesels are the future" is just as true today as it was in 1983, when I was given a diesel-powered company car. Diesel was "the future" then, just as it is today, and just as it probably will still be 20 years from now. At least here, diesels are the present (and have been for at least a decade). For car diesels, it can be difficult to tell you're driving a diesel - they accelerate like a gasoline powered car, they are no noisier than a gasoline powered car, they are not smoky and thanks to ultra low sulphur diesel and Biodiesel are not the polluting, smoky things of 1983. They also get much better fuel economy (particularly in start/stop traffic). As for aviation, it isn't just the price difference between 100LL and diesel - consider that the Diamond Twin Star has better performance than a Piper Seminole, but with the fuel burn of a 172. -- Dylan Smith, Port St Mary, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Oolite-Linux: an Elite tribute: http://oolite-linux.berlios.de Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net |
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