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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
... Douglas Paterson wrote: I've not heard that before either, but I'd never heard "check gear down" before I flew into a military field either. And this was in a 182 which made it even more comical. This one I can answer a bit more directly, since it came about during my tenure in the Air Force. USAF got tired of "too many" gear-up landing (how many was that? dunno; 1 is "too many" in my book), so they implemented a policy that eventually worked its way into the rule books. I'll cite the pilot side of things; I'm reasonably certain that the (USAF) tower controllers' books have more or less the same guidance for their side of the radio. I have no idea what, if any, reduction in gear-up landings is attributed to this rule. From AFI 11-202 v3 [http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfi...i11-202v3.pdf], para 5.9.6: 5.9.6. Landing Gear Reporting Procedures. Pilots operating retractable gear aircraft must report "gear down" to the ATC agency or runway supervisory unit after extending the landing gear. This report shall be made during any approach to an airport prior to crossing the runway threshold. -- Doug "Where am I to go/Now that I've gone too far?" -- Golden Earring, "Twilight Zone" (my email is spam-proofed; read the address and make the appropriate change to contact me) |
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Douglas Paterson wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Douglas Paterson wrote: I've not heard that before either, but I'd never heard "check gear down" before I flew into a military field either. And this was in a 182 which made it even more comical. This one I can answer a bit more directly, since it came about during my tenure in the Air Force. USAF got tired of "too many" gear-up landing (how many was that? dunno; 1 is "too many" in my book), so they implemented a policy that eventually worked its way into the rule books. I'll cite the pilot side of things; I'm reasonably certain that the (USAF) tower controllers' books have more or less the same guidance for their side of the radio. I have no idea what, if any, reduction in gear-up landings is attributed to this rule. From AFI 11-202 v3 [http://www.e-publishing.af.mil/pubfi...i11-202v3.pdf], para 5.9.6: 5.9.6. Landing Gear Reporting Procedures. Pilots operating retractable gear aircraft must report "gear down" to the ATC agency or runway supervisory unit after extending the landing gear. This report shall be made during any approach to an airport prior to crossing the runway threshold. So if I had called the controller on downwind and reported "gear down and welded", I wouldn't have gotten that reminder when I was cleared to land? :-) Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message
... So if I had called the controller on downwind and reported "gear down and welded", I wouldn't have gotten that reminder when I was cleared to land? :-) In theory? No. In practice? Almost certainly. It pretty much becomes a part of the controllers' automatic phraseology: "call sign, cleared to land rwy XX, check gear down." That happens to me more often than not even after reporting the gear down; indeed, I made it a habit to call at the FAF (which, by another USAF rule, is the latest point by which the gear must be down), "call sign, final approach fix, gear down"--which was typically followed immediately by tower with, "roger, call sign, cleared to land rwy XX, check gear down".... *sigh*.... ![]() -- Doug "Where am I to go/Now that I've gone too far?" -- Golden Earring, "Twilight Zone" (my email is spam-proofed; read the address and make the appropriate change to contact me) |
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