Nasa Icing courses

Pete,
I have read and participate in r.a.s for the last few years. The
newsgroup is not 'restricted' to primary students. There are many
instrument/comercial etc. students there as well and IMHO, the
learnings are never stopped for all pilots.

The website link which Jim provided has section on ground icing as
well. The information benefits all pilots and not just IFR rated
pilots.

Again, IMHO, there are no such things as too much information when
it comes to safety issues. Weather is totally unpredictable, VFR
pilots can encounter icing unintentionally. I had posted the account
of my first encounter with freezing rain about this time last year (not
in weather forecast, we were not in the cloud). What happened to us
could have happened to many pilots including primary students on a
solo VFR flight.

Any perceived problem with cross postings of on-topic subject is
quite insignificant in comparison to the numerous off topic, thread
hijacking branching out to politic and religious discussions seen at
rec.avatiation newgroups!

Hai Longworth

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Pete,
I have read and participate in r.a.s for the last few years. The
newsgroup is not 'restricted' to primary students.

I never said it was. Please don't put words in my mouth. It does nothing
to support your point, and makes you look dishonest.

[...]
Any perceived problem with cross postings of on-topic subject is
quite insignificant in comparison to the numerous off topic, thread
hijacking branching out to politic and religious discussions seen at
rec.avatiation newgroups!

Your statement is quite ironic, given how this thread got hijacked into a
r.a.owning issue ("engine making metal"). IMHO, that's a perfect
illustration why excessive cross-posting is such a problem (never mind the
divergent threads that wouldn't be on-topic in any rec.aviation.*
newsgroup).

Your other statements are classic slippery-slope logic. The fact is, lots
of topics would be of possible interest to many if not all of the people who
frequent the various rec.aviation.* newsgroups. Unfortunately for your
argument, that's not justification for posting messages on those topics.

Pete

Pete,
My post is in reference to several points that you made below.

Regarding thread hijacking, I don't have problems with thread
branching out to other topics. Using google, at least the branch was
labeled Engine making metal. It is not the same as branching or
hijacking to non-aviation related discussions on politics and
religions.

I think I have sufficiently expressed my opinion on cross postings
and off-topic subject and do not wish to engage in any further
discussions here to conserve bandwidth.

Hai Longworth



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Weather is taught to VFR primary students, why not icing?



Because they have enough to learn already?

Seriously though, a primary student's knowledge of icing need not
extend
much further than "don't fly when freezing rain is forecast". For
extra
credit, a short discussion of what causes freezing rain might be called
for.


Most icing occurs inside a cloud, and VFR pilots should not have to
worry
about that, or anything else that might happen inside a cloud.


But more importantly (and more to the point) the r.a.student newsgroup
is
more about the process of learning to fly, and especially as it applies
to
primary students
.....

Pete