How long to keep VOR check records?

I have pages in a notebook in the plane for VOR checks. That way I
have a record of how the VOR has been over a period of time. There's
quite a few lines on each page .. no not much space to keep them
for a while.


"Ross Oliver" wrote in message
...

So here's a question I had never thought of until getting my
instrument rating and owning an IFR-equipped aircraft: how long
should records of VOR checks be retained? Do they need to be
retained at all? Can the FAA come to me and ask, "Remember that
IFR flight to SLO you made 2 years ago? Show us the VOR check for
that flight."

This came to mind because the next VOR check entry will fill up
the form I have been using, and I'll have to start a new one. So
I have to decide whether to discard the filled sheet, or save it
somewhere. Is there any value to saving these with the aircraft
maintenance records?


Happy landings,
Ross Oliver

What trend do you see? I've never had a VOR not check within specs but the
only trend I would care about is the first time it doesn't. To the avionics
shop we go...

--
-------------------------------
Travis
"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
.. .
I have pages in a notebook in the plane for VOR checks. That way I
have a record of how the VOR has been over a period of time. There's
quite a few lines on each page .. no not much space to keep them
for a while.


"Ross Oliver" wrote in message
...

So here's a question I had never thought of until getting my
instrument rating and owning an IFR-equipped aircraft: how long
should records of VOR checks be retained? Do they need to be
retained at all? Can the FAA come to me and ask, "Remember that
IFR flight to SLO you made 2 years ago? Show us the VOR check for
that flight."

This came to mind because the next VOR check entry will fill up
the form I have been using, and I'll have to start a new one. So
I have to decide whether to discard the filled sheet, or save it
somewhere. Is there any value to saving these with the aircraft
maintenance records?


Happy landings,
Ross Oliver

I can't think of a reason to keep them after they have been superceded. A
post-it note that you throw away with each new check, or fill up with 3-4
checks then start a new one, would be perfectly adequate. The record
requirement for VOR checks is kind of an anachronism, really.

"Otis Winslow" wrote in message
.. .
I have pages in a notebook in the plane for VOR checks. That way I
have a record of how the VOR has been over a period of time. There's
quite a few lines on each page .. no not much space to keep them
for a while.


"Ross Oliver" wrote in message
...

So here's a question I had never thought of until getting my
instrument rating and owning an IFR-equipped aircraft: how long
should records of VOR checks be retained? Do they need to be
retained at all? Can the FAA come to me and ask, "Remember that
IFR flight to SLO you made 2 years ago? Show us the VOR check for
that flight."

This came to mind because the next VOR check entry will fill up
the form I have been using, and I'll have to start a new one. So
I have to decide whether to discard the filled sheet, or save it
somewhere. Is there any value to saving these with the aircraft
maintenance records?


Happy landings,
Ross Oliver

The record
requirement for VOR checks is kind of an anachronism, really.


How so? (I take it "anacrhonism" here means something that once was valid or
useful, and no longer is, but still must be done)

Jose

--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

Well, since practically everybody uses GPS, and radar coverage is
essentially nationwide now, making sure your VOR is accurate within a couple
of degrees every 30 days, and also keeping a detailed record of that, seems
a bit out of date. Kind of like making sure your buggy whip is in good
condition every 30 days.

"Teacherjh" wrote in message
...

The record
requirement for VOR checks is kind of an anachronism, really.


How so? (I take it "anacrhonism" here means something that once was valid
or
useful, and no longer is, but still must be done)

Jose

--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

Well, since practically everybody uses GPS


Uh... no.


and radar coverage is
essentially nationwide now,


Uh... no.


making sure your VOR is accurate within a couple
of degrees every 30 days, and also keeping a detailed record of that, seems
a bit out of date.


Oh. I thought you meant just the recordkeeping part. If you have and use a
VOR IFR it better be accurate.

Jose



--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

Well for me, VOR is backup no. 2 behind radar vectors/ handheld GPS, if my
primary GPS goes out. I have been pretty good about logging VOR checks, but
it is starting to seem a little silly since I haven't used a VOR for IFR nav
in years.
"Teacherjh" wrote in message
...

Well, since practically everybody uses GPS


Uh... no.


and radar coverage is
essentially nationwide now,


Uh... no.


making sure your VOR is accurate within a couple
of degrees every 30 days, and also keeping a detailed record of that,
seems
a bit out of date.


Oh. I thought you meant just the recordkeeping part. If you have and use
a
VOR IFR it better be accurate.

Jose



--
(for Email, make the obvious changes in my address)

On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 10:06:08 GMT, "Dan Thompson"
wrote:

Well for me, VOR is backup no. 2 behind radar vectors/ handheld GPS, if my
primary GPS goes out. I have been pretty good about logging VOR checks, but
it is starting to seem a little silly since I haven't used a VOR for IFR nav
in years.

Then you haven't had to do a VOR check in years either.

It only has to have a current check if you are using it.
Far as that goes, (as I understand) you can take off in VFR
conditions, do the check and file.


Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

snip

"Dan Thompson" wrote in
. com:

Well, since practically everybody uses GPS, and radar coverage is
essentially nationwide now, making sure your VOR is accurate within a
couple of degrees every 30 days, and also keeping a detailed record of
that, seems a bit out of date. Kind of like making sure your buggy
whip is in good condition every 30 days.


Radar coverage does not extend nationwide at low altitudes. In fact I would
bet that 99% of the country does not have radar coverage below 1000' AGL.
This is where VOR accuracy really matters anyway.

I bet you are right. Since it is not possible to fly under IFR below 1000
AGL, except taking off or on an approach, what difference does that make?

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
. 158...
"Dan Thompson" wrote in
. com:

Well, since practically everybody uses GPS, and radar coverage is
essentially nationwide now, making sure your VOR is accurate within a
couple of degrees every 30 days, and also keeping a detailed record of
that, seems a bit out of date. Kind of like making sure your buggy
whip is in good condition every 30 days.


Radar coverage does not extend nationwide at low altitudes. In fact I
would
bet that 99% of the country does not have radar coverage below 1000' AGL.
This is where VOR accuracy really matters anyway.