Mexico Border TFR No that bad

George Patterson wrote:
Other portions of the border are already well covered by other means.

Apparently not well enough, by the looks of the crowd hanging around
the 7-11s in Herndon, VA. The town even suggested building a shelter
and community center especially for them here. A place for them to get
started in life here in the US so they say, a safe place for them to be
picked up by employers. I don't know how that's going.

The Monk

Flyingmonk wrote:

A place for them to get
started in life here in the US so they say, a safe place for them to be
picked up by employers.

We have one of those in Red Bank. It's called the train station.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

Dave S wrote:

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:

I missed that but you are right. That makes it even less of a problem. Again
the AOPA ought to say this is fine and in the interest of both national
security and flight safety.

I agree with you guys.. This is not the one to fight over. The only
think I can think of is "precedence setting" and "slippery slope" with
regards to AOPA's rationale in fighting this aggressively.

Dave

Dave, I understand that concept but as GIG mentioned, this one is not
worth falling on your sword. It is a measly 2000 vertical feet where
few planes fly anyway (my guess). If I had to fly there I would fly
under, over or through talking to ATC. I am all in favor of using
appropriate technology to protect our borders. This one does not
appear to infringe even marginally upon our ability to fly.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:
This one does not appear to infringe even marginally upon our ability to fly.

Yeah, but it is infringing on my wallet though, and by the looks of it
there are more illegals hanging around than before, and bunch of flop
houses around too!

I'm all for immigration, but it must be legal, regulated and
controlled. The workers must be taxed like the rest of us.


The Monk

"George Patterson" wrote in message
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John Doe wrote:

Anyone know why the TFR is ONLY 300nm long and doesn't stretch the entire
border of Mexico?

Other portions of the border are already well covered by other means.

Yep, only a couple million a year getting through the well covered areas.

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

"Robert M. Gary" writes:

The most interesting part of this is the cost of the UAV. [..]
I don't understand why they don't just get a couple 182 crews with
similar equipment installed.

Perhaps a Hellfire launcher STC for the 182 is not available.

- FChE

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
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I say why not tethered balloons or blimps with same equipment on board
at intervals and dorder patrols with choppers to have closer looksy
when conditions warrant? Too cost effective to work? Not enough
lobbyist to make money off of this idea?

The cable would require a TFR that would run from the surface, all the way
up to the balloon. Hard to see a cable at night.
--
Jim in NC

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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The most interesting part of this is the cost of the UAV. Many times
that of a C182 with crew. I don't understand why they don't just get a
couple 182 crews with similar equipment installed.

That was covered a few days back.
--
Jim in NC

Frank Ch. Eigler wrote:

Perhaps a Hellfire launcher STC for the 182 is not available.

they are planning on using hellfires on Mexican emmigrants?

--Sylvain

They do have tethered balloons along the border, up to 15,000'. I
believe there is one in NM northwest of El Paso. I saw it when flying to
Tucson a few years back. It is marked on the charts.

Flyingmonk wrote:

I say why not tethered balloons or blimps with same equipment on board
at intervals and dorder patrols with choppers to have closer looksy
when conditions warrant? Too cost effective to work? Not enough
lobbyist to make money off of this idea?

The Monk