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J. N. wrote:
I don`t think you`re right.

In fact, if you take a look at the inflation, gliders have become
cheaper, or equally priced compared to 1980.


You must be kidding, i think. I remember a time when a glider was
worth one third or one fourth the price of a house, now it is close
to the price of a house, hence a very unreasonable buy. You are saying
there are less buyers, there is a very good explanation to that.

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Michel TALON

In fact, if you take a look at the inflation, gliders have become
cheaper, or equally priced compared to 1980.

You must be kidding, i think. I remember a time when a glider was
worth one third or one fourth the price of a house, now it is close
to the price of a house.....

Not where I live (Boston Massachusetts area). The "fixer-upper" 4 houses
from me sold for US$370K 6 months ago. The house I bought for US60K in
'79 has been appraised at approx $450K. My salary in that same time
frame has increased by a factor of 8 (same industry). From where I
stand, J.N. has it about right.

Tony V.
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Michel Talon wrote:

J. N. wrote:
I don`t think you`re right.

In fact, if you take a look at the inflation, gliders have become
cheaper, or equally priced compared to 1980.


You must be kidding, i think. I remember a time when a glider was
worth one third or one fourth the price of a house, now it is close
to the price of a house, hence a very unreasonable buy. You are saying
there are less buyers, there is a very good explanation to that.


Funny, I recall the first time I flew a Kestrel 19 (around 1973 or '74), the
thought went through my mind that you could buy a house (albeit a
back-to-back terrace in an unfashionable part of Northern England) for what
the club paid for it. (Incidentally I now own one outright. Value is less
than a new family car).

The same house now (admittedly modernised a bit) will cost around 60% more
than the price of a new ASH-25, but in relation to salaries in the UK the
price of a new glider, from a Skylark 4 in 1962 through to a Ventus 2 today
hasn't changed that much.

This discussion comes up here from time to time, and is always confused
because it's international, and everyone's economy and currency develops at
different rates. Those who insist the game is getting more expensive
always quote two reasons:

1. Lower "real" incomes

2. Higher labour costs.

Think about it.



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Real name is richard

Richard Brisbourne wrote:
Those who insist the game is getting more expensive
always quote two reasons:

1. Lower "real" incomes

2. Higher labour costs.

Think about it.


Very insightful. I would add the fact that "real" incomes for some categories
has declined - for example professors, engineers (*) etc. namely the one most
susceptible to practice this sport, while the manual labor cost has augmented
dramatically, and especially in Germany. So i don't see a contradiction in
your argument, only the fact it is not the income and the costs of the same
persons.

(*) i remember when i was a student, IBM offered positions with far higher
salaries they offer now, without taking into account inflation! Secondary
school teachers who were then part of the "good society" in small towns are
now fully proletarized. Even brilliant students who envisioned careers in
research now fly away. In the same time plumbers carpenters and the like will
charge you a month of your salary for a day of their work and will ensure you
wait their appearance at least two or three months.




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Michel TALON