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In article , Robert
Chambers wrote: Were you timing the approach as well for when the GS goes out of service as they sometimes do on IPC rides? the timer should start at the FAF which can be a busy time if you're going down, staying centered, maintaining airspeed, calling the tower at FAF if that's what they wanted, etc. The Final Approach Point (not fix) on an ILS is the published glideslope altitude (in this case, 1800) intersecting with the glideslope. That's NOT where the timer for a LOC approach would start, because there's no glideslope to define the point! The FAF on the nonprecision localizer-only approach is normally a DME fix, an intersection, or a marker, and it's /that/ point that's defined by the maltese cross (and where the clock starts). In the case of Stockton's ILS 29R, it's a LOM, and you're already on your way down the glideslope by then, if you're flying the full ILS, whether you've intercepted at 2000 feet or 1800 feet. The chart's here in case anyone else wants to see it: http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0601/00407I29R.PDF -- Garner R. Miller ATP/CFII/MEI Clifton Park, NY =USA= http://www.garnermiller.com/ |
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![]() Garner Miller wrote: In article , Robert Chambers wrote: Were you timing the approach as well for when the GS goes out of service as they sometimes do on IPC rides? the timer should start at the FAF which can be a busy time if you're going down, staying centered, maintaining airspeed, calling the tower at FAF if that's what they wanted, etc. The Final Approach Point (not fix) on an ILS is the published glideslope altitude (in this case, 1800) intersecting with the glideslope. That's NOT where the timer for a LOC approach would start, because there's no glideslope to define the point! In this instance there's a 5.3 DME defining the FAF, and the Outer Marker it's 4/10th of a mile from GS intercept. It's a busy time. I didn't say he started timing at GS intercept at 1800, I believe I did say at the FAF. With an IPC you expect things like GS's to fail which adds to the workload. Thats all I meant. |
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