All good for two more years.

Jay Beckman wrote:

I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me more
amunition to keep being an ex smoker!

One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I attended
(that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a bunch of buts from
an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill it halfway with water, so
they're all good & soggy and put the lid on. Anytime you want a cig, open the
lid and take a whif.

"But when your bass player's flat, and your drummer drags ... don't you wish you
had a fag?"

George Patterson
Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to
your slightly older self.

I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me more
amunition to keep being an ex smoker!

One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I attended
(that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a bunch of buts
from an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill it halfway
with water, so they're all good & soggy and put the lid on. Anytime you
want a cig, open the lid and take a whif.

Smoking is the damndest addiction. I haven't had a cigarette since New
Year's Day 1986. Not even one. I was smoking 2.5 packs of Marlboro
Menthols per day then, and just quit, cold turkey, after watching my
father-in-law waste away to 85 pounds before dying of lung cancer.

I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full of
smokers.

Yet -- despite all that -- sometimes I REALLY want a smoke. Still.

Good job quitting, Jay, you'll never regret it, but remember -- as with any
true addiction, you never really get over it, mentally. Stay on guard, and
don't ever, EVER even have one again.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

My brother & I bought our 1975 Cessna 172M new, justifying it to our
wives then by noting we hadn't smoked for the previous 20 years
(actually never) & now we wanted to spend the money we had saved.
Somehow they let us do it. I had to buy out his half when he developed
MS a few years ago.

The amount I spend on it including hangar, insurance maintenance etc is
about what a 2 pack/day smoker would spend on cigarettes. We didn't
figure on the value going up like it has. I still look at heavy
smokers & think that owning an airplane is a helluva lot more fun.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:t5hCf.735401$_o.263844@attbi_s71...
I'm gonna hang my hat on the "no longer a smoker" peg...just give me
more amunition to keep being an ex smoker!

One of the bullets they gave us at the last stop-smoking clinic I
attended (that's the one that worked, by the way) was this. Collect a
bunch of buts from an ashtray. Get a Mason jar about half full. Then fill
it halfway with water, so they're all good & soggy and put the lid on.
Anytime you want a cig, open the lid and take a whif.

Smoking is the damndest addiction. I haven't had a cigarette since New
Year's Day 1986. Not even one. I was smoking 2.5 packs of Marlboro
Menthols per day then, and just quit, cold turkey, after watching my
father-in-law waste away to 85 pounds before dying of lung cancer.

I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full
of smokers.

Yet -- despite all that -- sometimes I REALLY want a smoke. Still.

Good job quitting, Jay, you'll never regret it, but remember -- as with
any true addiction, you never really get over it, mentally. Stay on
guard, and don't ever, EVER even have one again.
--
Jay Honeck

I have a very close friend who is a 12-stepper and recovering addict (C/S
for almost 12 years now...God bless him...) who was very involved with a
halfway house for those in similar situations and told me that they had
success getting people off booze, off pills, off coke, off heroin, off just
about anything to which you can become addicted ... except cigarettes. The
only way off nicotine is to just want off.

Thank you for the encouragement.

Jay B

("Jay Beckman" wrote)
I have a very close friend who is a 12-stepper and recovering addict (C/S
for almost 12 years now...God bless him...) who was very involved with a
halfway house for those in similar situations and told me that they had
success getting people off booze, off pills, off coke, off heroin, off
just about anything to which you can become addicted ... except
cigarettes. The only way off nicotine is to just want off.


My oldest sister quit cigs by allowing herself five or six per day. After a
while she was down to three a day. Then two a day. Now she steals a puff or
two (that's it) a couple of times per month. Smokers are funny - Can I have
a drag from your cigarette? Sure, here.

She said if she had to quit-quit-quit she would have failed. Instead, she
99.9973% quit. Works for her. Mom still smokes, Pops quit when I was young -
except cigars. Three oldest siblings smoke, the younger four of us never
started.


Montblack

My oldest sister quit cigs by allowing herself five or six per day. After
a while she was down to three a day. Then two a day. Now she steals a puff
or two (that's it) a couple of times per month. Smokers are funny - Can I
have a drag from your cigarette? Sure, here.

I've known people like that, and the only thing I can think of is that they
were never truly addicted in the first place.

I know for a fact that, if I allowed myself to have one, I'd soon want five,
and then 20.

Trust me, if I thought I could "only smoke a little" -- I would.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:t5hCf.735401$_o.263844@attbi_s71...
[...]
I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full
of smokers.

Do you (now that you have been operated your inn for awhile and have hosted
smokers) understand why I (and my family), as dog owners, will NEVER stay in
a hotel that doesn't allow us to have our pet in a non-smoking room? I'm
sorry that there are some people whose animal allergies are so bad that a
thorough cleaning of a room after a dog has been in there isn't sufficient.
But there is no way for me to be comfortable in a room in which smoking has
been permitted.

It's funny...I'm sure some smokers are just plain slobs. But we have more
than one friend who, after finally quitting smoking, looked at (or smelled)
other smokers and said "was I really just like that?" To which we would
have to reply, "no...you were worse". It's amazing how dulled their senses
were to the smell of smoke in their clothes, hair, and to how much their
smoke got all over everything they owned (the layer of smoke on their car
windows, computer keyboards, etc.).

Pete

Do you (now that you have been operated your inn for awhile and have
hosted smokers) understand why I (and my family), as dog owners, will
NEVER stay in a hotel that doesn't allow us to have our pet in a
non-smoking room? I'm sorry that there are some people whose animal
allergies are so bad that a thorough cleaning of a room after a dog has
been in there isn't sufficient. But there is no way for me to be
comfortable in a room in which smoking has been permitted.

I understand fully. I just can't find a way to make everyone happy.

One thing we've got that really works is a VERY expensive commercial ozone
generator. We run that thing in our smoking-permitted suites after each
guest, and you won't smell smoke in those units after it has been run for as
little as 30 minutes.

Trouble is, if you bury your face into the couch cushions, or the mattress,
the smell is still there. It just can't be eliminated entirely -- and
neither can pet dander.

Difference is, one bothers some people, while the other makes some people
incredibly ill. Both are awful.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Do you (now that you have been operated your inn for awhile and have
hosted smokers) understand why I (and my family), as dog owners, will
NEVER stay in a hotel that doesn't allow us to have our pet in a
non-smoking room? I'm sorry that there are some people whose animal
allergies are so bad that a thorough cleaning of a room after a dog has
been in there isn't sufficient. But there is no way for me to be
comfortable in a room in which smoking has been permitted.


I understand fully. I just can't find a way to make everyone happy.

One thing we've got that really works is a VERY expensive commercial ozone
generator. We run that thing in our smoking-permitted suites after each
guest, and you won't smell smoke in those units after it has been run for as
little as 30 minutes.

Trouble is, if you bury your face into the couch cushions, or the mattress,
the smell is still there. It just can't be eliminated entirely -- and
neither can pet dander.

Difference is, one bothers some people, while the other makes some people
incredibly ill. Both are awful.

Do you offer "No Nuts" rooms. Some people go into shock if somebody has
eaten a peanut butter sandwich in the room. (Hmmm are they the nuts?)

In article t5hCf.735401$_o.263844@attbi_s71,
Jay Honeck wrote:

I despise smoking, and am appalled to say that most smokers are slobs. No
one does more damage to our property, I can't stand what smokers do to our
hotel, and I can't stand the way I stink when I get home from a bar full of
smokers.


I am also a convert. I had gone down to half pack a day of Lucky Strikes
before quitting cold turkey before moving to a new house I did not want to
smell like an ashtray like the former one.

I now can detect a smoker 3 blocks aways and HATE being downwind from
a smoker. I drop my clothes in the washing mashine every time I get back
from a public place where people smoke and hate the smell.


Yet -- despite all that -- sometimes I REALLY want a smoke. Still.

yup. want the cigarrete. not the smoke.


--
Eduardo K. |
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