Student Pilot & skydivers

Bela P. Havasreti wrote:
On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:30:07 -0600, Mike Weller
wrote:

Buddy of mine used to fly skydiving ops in the early 1970s.

One time, after a long, hot climb to altitude in a 182, as the
skydivers exited, one of them grabbed the ignition key, turned
it to the "OFF" position and promptly exited the aircraft with the
key in his hand (my fiend, choices somewhat limited, glided back
to the airport below and dead-sticked her in).

After that, he always carried a spare key in his pocket for the
skydiving airplane he happened to be flying....

You know, I've heard that story so many times, and I know it's supposed
to be funny, but all I can think is how irresponsible it is.

"Rachel" wrote in message
. ..

You know, I've heard that story so many times, and I know it's supposed to
be funny, but all I can think is how irresponsible it is.

Its a form of check-out: If you cannot manage on on-field landing from ten
thousand
feet above it you probably shouldn't be hauling jumpers in beat up jump
planes all day,
and if you'll come back after a stunt like that you're probably cool to
party with.

Todd

"Todd W. Deckard" wrote

Its a form of check-out: If you cannot manage on on-field landing from ten
thousand
feet above it you probably shouldn't be hauling jumpers in beat up jump
planes all day,
and if you'll come back after a stunt like that you're probably cool to
party with.
\\
Yeah, I would party with the dude; right after I coldcocked him.
--
Jim in NC

Todd W. Deckard wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message
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You know, I've heard that story so many times, and I know it's supposed to
be funny, but all I can think is how irresponsible it is.


Its a form of check-out: If you cannot manage on on-field landing from ten
thousand
feet above it you probably shouldn't be hauling jumpers in beat up jump
planes all day,
and if you'll come back after a stunt like that you're probably cool to
party with.

Todd


Still a violation of the FAR's.

Personally, I stay far away from skydivers.

george wrote:
Bela P. Havasreti wrote:
snip

the urban legend that got done to death some years ago in the skydiving
group...

I don't know the US regs but I rather suspect they're like ours and
unlicensed illegal interfering with an aircraft carries a large fine
and jail time..

§ 91.11 Prohibition on interference with crewmembers.

No person may assault, threaten, intimidate, or interfere with a
crewmember in the performance of the crewmember's duties aboard an
aircraft being operated.



Don't know what the penalty would be, but it it's in the FAR's...

Rachel wrote:
Todd W. Deckard wrote:
"Rachel" wrote in message
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You know, I've heard that story so many times, and I know it's supposed to
be funny, but all I can think is how irresponsible it is.


Its a form of check-out: If you cannot manage on on-field landing from ten
thousand
feet above it you probably shouldn't be hauling jumpers in beat up jump
planes all day,
and if you'll come back after a stunt like that you're probably cool to
party with.

Todd


Still a violation of the FAR's.

Personally, I stay far away from skydivers.

I did a rating for jump pilot and as a consequence had a couple of
jumps..
In my opinion no-one would be stupid enough to pull that trick but were
they that would be the end of their skydiving and the beginning of
their working career with a criminal conviction.
And.
I could (and did most times) get back onto the ground before the load !

Personally, I stay far away from skydivers.

Dam low-life scum! It's just unnatural to leave the
ground in an aircraft hundreds, maybe thousands, more
times than returning in one. :-)

Blue ones!,
Tony P.

george wrote:
Rachel wrote:

Todd W. Deckard wrote:

"Rachel" wrote in message
om...



You know, I've heard that story so many times, and I know it's supposed to
be funny, but all I can think is how irresponsible it is.


Its a form of check-out: If you cannot manage on on-field landing from ten
thousand
feet above it you probably shouldn't be hauling jumpers in beat up jump
planes all day,
and if you'll come back after a stunt like that you're probably cool to
party with.

Todd



Still a violation of the FAR's.

Personally, I stay far away from skydivers.


I did a rating for jump pilot and as a consequence had a couple of
jumps..
In my opinion no-one would be stupid enough to pull that trick but were
they that would be the end of their skydiving and the beginning of
their working career with a criminal conviction.

I don't know, would anyone actually get in criminal trouble for that?

On Sat, 4 Feb 2006 07:00:24 GMT, Bela P. Havasreti
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:30:07 -0600, Mike Weller
wrote:

Buddy of mine used to fly skydiving ops in the early 1970s.

One time, after a long, hot climb to altitude in a 182, as the
skydivers exited, one of them grabbed the ignition key, turned
it to the "OFF" position and promptly exited the aircraft with the
key in his hand (my fiend, choices somewhat limited, glided back
to the airport below and dead-sticked her in).

After that, he always carried a spare key in his pocket for the
skydiving airplane he happened to be flying....

Bela P. Havasreti


I've heard that too.

It never happened to me, but flying a 182, it would not be something
that would really cause a problem. After all, they were over the
airport.

It's not that hard to land a 182 on a 2000 foot runway that's not used
for anything other than sky diving. Just get off the runway for the
182.

In my experience, of course, there were more problems with hauling sky
divers than having to just glide the plane back to the runway.

And I mean this in the best way. To a one, all of the sky divers that
I've met were meticulous in their equipment and the overall operation
of the way that they did things. First rate in every aspect.

Mike Weller

Mr. Todd
Right on.....Having hauled jumpers/jumping as far back as 1959 and as a
pilot with nearly 23,000 hours, I have to agree. Have flown some real
junk over the years, and have jumped with some real junk over the
years. Have you ever seen the pic of the 13 floaters on the B-18 south
of Perris? I was the pilot of that one in 1985.
I remember one time with a high altitude jump when an oxygen bottle was
being passed back and forth, and one of the jumpers puked into the mask
and jumped....the following jumper got the puke and chased the guy to
the ground. Lyle Cameron, Duke Adair, Bob Sinclair, me, and some others
that I'll recall with time..... Duke was laughing so hard he didn't
feel the guys whipping on his stupid ass......
What ever happened to the old days besides being part of history?