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In my professional capacity as a nondestructive test engineer, I was
peripherally involved in the successful effort to get DOT approval for acoustic testing of high pressure cylinders carrying gasses on truck trailers, as well as for acoustically testing composite liquefied natural gas cylinders used in automobiles. I have also personally used acoustics to inspect pressure systems used in Mach 14 wind tunnels that involve pressures up to 60,000 (yes, sixty thousand) psi of air. Those were some crazy thick walled pressure vessels...made the 16 inch rifles on the battleship New Jersey look puny! In the United States pressure vessels must be certified to either DOT or ASME standards. If a pressure vessel to be used in the USA does not have either DOT or ASME certification, it is illegal to use it, much less to fill it. For example, check out Michelin, Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop or Pirelli tires - they all have a DOT approval for USA usage, even though they aren't made here. Yes, tires are considered to be a pressure vessel - so is your hot water heater, for that matter. Sorry, Hartley, you're going to have to buy another oxygen cylinder if you want to be legal. -John |
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jcarlyle wrote:
In my professional capacity as a nondestructive test engineer, I was peripherally involved in the successful effort to get DOT approval for acoustic testing of high pressure cylinders carrying gasses on truck trailers, as well as for acoustically testing composite liquefied natural gas cylinders used in automobiles. I have also personally used acoustics to inspect pressure systems used in Mach 14 wind tunnels that involve pressures up to 60,000 (yes, sixty thousand) psi of air. Those were some crazy thick walled pressure vessels...made the 16 inch rifles on the battleship New Jersey look puny! In the United States pressure vessels must be certified to either DOT or ASME standards. If a pressure vessel to be used in the USA does not have either DOT or ASME certification, it is illegal to use it, much less to fill it. For example, check out Michelin, Continental, Bridgestone, Dunlop or Pirelli tires - they all have a DOT approval for USA usage, even though they aren't made here. Yes, tires are considered to be a pressure vessel - so is your hot water heater, for that matter. Bicycle tires and rims too (never heard this)? *Much* higher pressure than car tires. Shawn |
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On 5 Feb 2006 14:18:32 -0800, "jcarlyle" wrote:
In the United States pressure vessels must be certified to either DOT or ASME standards. If a pressure vessel to be used in the USA does not have either DOT or ASME certification, it is illegal to use it, much less to fill it. John, can you provide support for that? I'm in the hydraulics industry, and we have charged (and recharged) accumulators and gas bottles for years that are neither DOT nor ASME approved. These are not always old, nor small ... I worked with one gas bottle pressurized to 3800 psi by N2 which cycles between 4200 and 4800 every 50 seconds .... with a volume of over 200 gallons. I just commissioned a system with 2 new (2005 manufacture) 32 liter accumulators that were bought by others from others, but to which I pressurized. I "trusted" the ratings stamped on the shell, but they had no approval stamps (manufacturer offers ASME or TUV as options; neither engineer nor user requested it). Am _I_ breaking the law? We constantly wonder when pneumatic cylinders are going to be considered pressure vessels in the USA; the PED (Pressure Equipment Directive) of the EU already has criteria. |
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