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by Michael 182 Feb 6, 2006
at 09:13 AM When all of this is done, I'm willing to be next in line for adding more regulation to general aviation. You'd be acting in your own self interest if you do. See below, esp. p. 6 and 8. http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0001.pdf |
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Interesting statistics, but as I'm sure you know, 73.8% of published
statistics are incorrect. They are talking about pilots and navigators as an occupation. They also show 90 deaths in 2002 and claim that represents 69.8 deaths per 100,000 employed. That yields 128,940 employed in the field. Another page from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows 106,000 employed as pilots or flight engineers. Looking through the NTSB site, I only found 48 fatalities in 28 accidents looking at part 121 (scheduled airlines - 0 fatal) part 135 (non-scheduled air taxi - 36) part 133 (three fatal) and part 137 (agriculture - 9 fatal). That only accounts for 48 deaths, not 90. It's still a pretty high number. The other point is that although on the chart you pointed out Pilots and Navgators had the highest percentage of fatalaties per 100,000 employed, they also had the lowest number of deaths. How much effort should go into saving these 90 people when 2667 people died in the nine occupations with higher numbers of deaths? "Skylune" wrote in message You'd be acting in your own self interest if you do. See below, esp. p. 6 and 8. http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfch0001.pdf |
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by "Steve Foley" Feb 6, 2006 at 07:29 PM
Interesting statistics, but as I'm sure you know, 73.8% of published statistics are incorrect. They are talking about pilots and navigators as an occupation. They also show 90 deaths in 2002 and claim that represents 69.8 deaths per 100,000 employed. That yields 128,940 employed in the field. Another page from the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows 106,000 employed as pilots or flight engineers. Looking through the NTSB site, I only found 48 fatalities in 28 accidents looking at part 121 (scheduled airlines - 0 fatal) part 135 (non-scheduled air taxi - 36) part 133 (three fatal) and part 137 (agriculture - 9 fatal). That only accounts for 48 deaths, not 90. It's still a pretty high number. The other point is that although on the chart you pointed out Pilots and Navgators had the highest percentage of fatalaties per 100,000 employed, they also had the lowest number of deaths. How much effort should go into saving these 90 people when 2667 people died in the nine occupations with higher numbers of deaths? Interesting: I don't know where BLS gets its statistics. One would think directly from employers, but I'm not sure. I'll try to find out. |
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The question still stands.
How much effort should be made to prevent these 90 deaths, when the top nine hazardous occupations account for 2667 deaths? "Skylune" wrote in message lkaboutaviation.com... Interesting: I don't know where BLS gets its statistics. One would think directly from employers, but I'm not sure. I'll try to find out. |
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"Steve Foley" posted the exciting message
news ![]() The question still stands. How much effort should be made to prevent these 90 deaths, when the top nine hazardous occupations account for 2667 deaths? "Skylune" wrote in message lkaboutaviation.com.. . Interesting: I don't know where BLS gets its statistics. One would think directly from employers, but I'm not sure. I'll try to find out. Personally, I think there are too many humans on the planet anyway. I'll just be careful and we'll let Darwin work his magic. Why shouldn't we enjoy things that may be risky? |
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by "Steve Foley" Feb 7, 2006 at 01:03 AM
The question still stands. Uh, uh, uh.......... I plead the Fifth! Actually, I think standards should be improved and proficiency better tested. More than just the semi annuals should be required. Many pilots agree that there are unsafe fliers. Can they ever be totally eliminated based on regulations? No. But there can be improvement. |
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"Skylune" wrote:
by "Steve Foley" Feb 7, 2006 at 01:03 AM The question still stands. Uh, uh, uh.......... I plead the Fifth! Actually, I think standards should be improved and proficiency better tested. More than just the semi annuals should be required. What semi annuals? Just because lots of people call biennials "biannuals" doesn't make them so! -- Alex -- Replace "nospam" with "mail" to reply by email. Checked infrequently. |
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by alexy Feb 7, 2006 at 08:34 AM
"Skylune" wrote: by "Steve Foley" Feb 7, 2006 at 01:03 AM The question still stands. Uh, uh, uh.......... I plead the Fifth! Actually, I think standards should be improved and proficiency better tested. More than just the semi annuals should be required. What semi annuals? Just because lots of people call biennials "biannuals" doesn't make them so! ;-). ok. biennials. not semi-annuals. I think there should be more than biennials.... -- |
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Many pilots agree that there are unsafe fliers. Can they ever be totally eliminated
based on regulations? No. But there can be improvement. Until you get those pilots to admit that they are unsafe and take action to correct their "problems" they will continue to die and kill others. Personally I don't want shotgun approaches that impact me that are designed to catch the few. Ron Lee |
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