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Old February 8th 06, 12:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Robert M. Gary wrote:

That's one major limitation of the Garmin products. Not having airways
is very, very irritating especially to those of us that fly in high
traffic areas (such as L.A.). When an approach controller machine guns
you with a new 6 airway route without giving you any intersections it
leaves you jumping for your chart. When I had my king unit, I would
just put the pink airplane line on top of the blue airway line and I
was done. I hope Garmin addresses this someday.

-Robert

The present 400/500s don't have enough memory. The so-called WAAS mod
will provide a whole lot horsepower. I suspect then they could provide
an airway database, but they sure ain't talking.

Also, their 31 leg flight plan limitation if far too restrictive. My
Garmin 296 does a lot better than that!
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Old February 8th 06, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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The present 400/500s don't have enough memory. The so-called WAAS mod
will provide a whole lot horsepower. I suspect then they could provide
an airway database, but they sure ain't talking.


That is what Garmin said. Its interesting to consider that my ancient
King SkymapIIIc color moving map handheld has airways as does the
little PocketFMS program I keep on the PDA in my pocket. So when will
the Garmin be able to handle the amount of data that takes up 1/100th
of the SD card in my pocket is already handling?? Personally, I think
they underestimated the importance of it because the guys back east
don't have mountains and therefor don't often fly airways when GPS
equipped. Out here, the airways is what threads you through the pass.

-Robert

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Old February 8th 06, 04:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Personally, I think
they underestimated the importance of it because the guys back east
don't have mountains and therefor don't often fly airways when GPS
equipped. Out here, the airways is what threads you through the pass.


With regards to airways and the northeast US, your statement is not true.
Traffic volume and ATC flow result in all IFR traffic being routed over
victor airways. Direct between most of the major airports is only given
after midnight and before 6:00am.


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"Peter R." wrote in message
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Personally, I think
they underestimated the importance of it because the guys back east
don't have mountains and therefor don't often fly airways when GPS
equipped. Out here, the airways is what threads you through the pass.


With regards to airways and the northeast US, your statement is not true.
Traffic volume and ATC flow result in all IFR traffic being routed over
victor airways. Direct between most of the major airports is only given
after midnight and before 6:00am.

Hmmm...how are they going to route traffic when all the VOR's are
decommissioned in the next few years?

Matt Barrow



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Old February 8th 06, 03:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Hmmm...how are they going to route traffic when all the VOR's are
decommissioned in the next few years


Next few years? Where did you get this timeframe?

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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Hmmm...how are they going to route traffic when all the VOR's are
decommissioned in the next few years


Next few years? Where did you get this timeframe?


He's making it up. Even if he substituted "years" for "decades," it still
would probably be too soon.

Marco



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Old February 9th 06, 03:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

He's making it up. Even if he substituted "years" for "decades," it still
would probably be too soon.


After reading Matt's posts for a year or more and giving this comment some
extra thought, I now think he was being sarcastic.

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"Peter R." wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Hmmm...how are they going to route traffic when all the VOR's are
decommissioned in the next few years


Next few years? Where did you get this timeframe?

See Ted's posts further down the thread.



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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Peter R." wrote in message
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Hmmm...how are they going to route traffic when all the VOR's are
decommissioned in the next few years?


Who told you that?
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wrote...
Matt Barrow wrote:

Hmmm...how are they going to route traffic when all the VOR's are
decommissioned in the next few years?


Who told you that?


http://www.faa.gov/asd/gpstrans.pdf

http://avnwww.jccbi.gov/icasc/PDF/frp1999.pdf

http://www.alaska.faa.gov/capstone/d...de%20v1.1H.pdf



 




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