Going around what to do?

"Rachel" wrote in message
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Chris G. wrote:
Sorry, I don't fly over the same runway when another aircraft could be
right below me, or that I could run into it. ATC would be quite okay
with you sidestepping.

ATC is usually not ok with you doing something unless they've told you to
do it or they know you're going to do it.

True, but ATC isn't likely to suffer the ultimate price should there be a
mid-air collision. I'm announcing intentions and keeping the rogue aircraft
in sight. If ATC has a problem with that, we can sort it out later.

KB

"Kyle Boatright" wrote:


"Rachel" wrote in message
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Chris G. wrote:
Sorry, I don't fly over the same runway when another aircraft could be
right below me, or that I could run into it. ATC would be quite okay
with you sidestepping.

ATC is usually not ok with you doing something unless they've told you to
do it or they know you're going to do it.

True, but ATC isn't likely to suffer the ultimate price should there be a
mid-air collision. I'm announcing intentions and keeping the rogue aircraft
in sight. If ATC has a problem with that, we can sort it out later.

KB

I agree. Be safe and if they want to scream and yell at least
everyone is alive to vent.

Ron Lee

Ron Lee wrote:


I agree. Be safe and if they want to scream and yell at least
everyone is alive to vent.

I've heard the saying: "Be alive at the hearing."

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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I agree. Be safe and if they want to scream and yell at least
everyone is alive to vent.


Not if you turn and collide with somebody on downwind.

helloooooo.....

I wouldn't sidestep THAT far... NOR would I sidestep into traffic (that
I know about). Steve, Give it a rest. As PIC, I'm responsible for the
safety of my aircraft and of my actions. You quoted the regs saying
just that. If I feel that I *need* to deviate from ATC instructions to
avoid an imminent collision, then I believe that would constitute and
EMERGENCY. In an emergency, it is well known that I may deviate from
the FARs to meet the needs of that emergency. Also, remember, Aviate,
Nagivate, and Communicate. I'll tell ATC what is going on, but not
before I ensure the safety of my flight. That being said, I don't doubt
that ATC will not intentionally issue an instruction that would put me
in harm's way. That still does not relieve me of being situationally
aware and ready to respond appropriately to a given situation/instruction.

Chris G.
PP-ASEL and still alive to talk about it cuz I fly safely!

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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I agree. Be safe and if they want to scream and yell at least
everyone is alive to vent.


Not if you turn and collide with somebody on downwind.

"Chris G." wrote in message
reenews.net...

helloooooo.....


Howdy.



I wouldn't sidestep THAT far...


Apparently there are those that would. At least one person here has stated
the reason to move to the right is to avoid other pattern traffic. If
you're not moving THAT far it doesn't matter which way you turn.



NOR would I sidestep into traffic (that I know about).


Who would? You may not know about all of the traffic.



Steve, Give it a rest.


Give what a rest?



As PIC, I'm responsible for the safety of my aircraft and of my actions.


Yes, I've already pointed that out.



You quoted the regs saying just that. If I feel that I *need* to deviate
from
ATC instructions to avoid an imminent collision, then I believe that would
constitute and EMERGENCY. In an emergency, it is well known that I may
deviate from the FARs to meet the needs of that emergency. Also,
remember,
Aviate, Nagivate, and Communicate. I'll tell ATC what is going on, but
not
before I ensure the safety of my flight. That being said, I don't doubt
that ATC will not intentionally issue an instruction that would put me
in harm's way. That still does not relieve me of being situationally
aware and ready to respond appropriately to a given situation/instruction.


Nothing in the OP suggests a need to deviate from any ATC instructions to
avoid an imminent collision. The threat of an imminent collision was
averted by the go around maneuver which was initiated by the controller.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:


"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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I agree. Be safe and if they want to scream and yell at least
everyone is alive to vent.


Not if you turn and collide with somebody on downwind.

If you choose to worry about that situation you may. It is not a
realistic scenario to me.

Ron Lee

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
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If you choose to worry about that situation you may. It is not a
realistic scenario to me.


Why not?

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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True, but ATC isn't likely to suffer the ultimate price should there be a
mid-air collision. I'm announcing intentions and keeping the rogue
aircraft in sight. If ATC has a problem with that, we can sort it out
later.


A midair with the rogue departure? That seems unlikely. You're behind and
above the aircraft taking off. For a collision to occur it would have to
climb significantly faster than your aircraft. If it can it do that it is
probably significantly faster as well and will stay in front of you. The
safest thing to do is comply with the instruction and overfly the runway.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Kyle Boatright" wrote in message
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True, but ATC isn't likely to suffer the ultimate price should there be a
mid-air collision. I'm announcing intentions and keeping the rogue
aircraft in sight. If ATC has a problem with that, we can sort it out
later.


A midair with the rogue departure? That seems unlikely. You're behind
and above the aircraft taking off. For a collision to occur it would have
to climb significantly faster than your aircraft. If it can it do that it
is probably significantly faster as well and will stay in front of you.
The safest thing to do is comply with the instruction and overfly the
runway.

In *my* scenario, there isn't an instruction. Either I'm a step ahead of
the controller, or (more likely) I'm at an uncontrolled field with no tower.
I make the decision to abort the landing and announce my intentions,
regardless of my previous announcemets, clearances, whatever. My comfort
level dictates what I do, which will be what I percieve to be the safest
course of action.

KB