7/8 Nieuport 11 flying qualities?

Just out of curiosity: do the Airdrome Aeroplanes kits include brakes?
IIRC the original versions of most (all?) of these planes didn't have
them. I had always assumed that these replicas didn't either and that
was something that turned me off when looking at them. Aside from that
I've always kinda liked the look of the Fokker D-VIII .

Original birds in WWI operated off grass fields and had 'skags' (sp).

With full back stick you dug the 'skag' in ground and didn't need
brakes to stop.

If you build a prototype today you need brakes as most, if not all,
flying is off hard surface.

Big John
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On 9 Feb 2006 10:22:49 -0800, "Mike Gaskins"
wrote:

Just out of curiosity: do the Airdrome Aeroplanes kits include brakes?
IIRC the original versions of most (all?) of these planes didn't have
them. I had always assumed that these replicas didn't either and that
was something that turned me off when looking at them. Aside from that
I've always kinda liked the look of the Fokker D-VIII .

"Big John" wrote in message
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Original birds in WWI operated off grass fields and had 'skags' (sp).

With full back stick you dug the 'skag' in ground and didn't need
brakes to stop.

If you build a prototype today you need brakes as most, if not all,
flying is off hard surface.

Big John

I wonder if anyone has tried using a skag, only cutting the tread section
off of an old auto tire and bolting it onto the bottom. It seems to me that
many of the same attributes would be attained, and some of the same ground
handling characteristics.
--
Jim in NC

Jim

Don't think it would last long. If you lock the brakes up on your car
how long does the tire last before it wears a hole in it? If you drug
a piece of tire on a hard surface how long before it wore out?

Last time I flew a 'Skag' was in 1937 in a Taylor Cub. To make a turn
you put full forward stick and full rudder in the direction you wanted
to turn and goosed the engine. Tail come off the ground and prop blast
against rudder blew the fuselage in the direction you wanted to turn.
You then cut power and full back stick and you were going in the
direction you wanted and continued to taxi.

Oh those were the good old days. Single ignition and no mag check. If
you got the rpm you took off )

Big John
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On Thu, 9 Feb 2006 21:52:33 -0500, "Morgans"
wrote:


"Big John" wrote in message
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Original birds in WWI operated off grass fields and had 'skags' (sp).

With full back stick you dug the 'skag' in ground and didn't need
brakes to stop.

If you build a prototype today you need brakes as most, if not all,
flying is off hard surface.

Big John

I wonder if anyone has tried using a skag, only cutting the tread section
off of an old auto tire and bolting it onto the bottom. It seems to me that
many of the same attributes would be attained, and some of the same ground
handling characteristics.

"Morgans" wrote in message
...

"Big John" wrote in message
...
Original birds in WWI operated off grass fields and had 'skags' (sp).

With full back stick you dug the 'skag' in ground and didn't need
brakes to stop.

If you build a prototype today you need brakes as most, if not all,
flying is off hard surface.

Big John

I wonder if anyone has tried using a skag, only cutting the tread section
off of an old auto tire and bolting it onto the bottom. It seems to me
that
many of the same attributes would be attained, and some of the same ground
handling characteristics.
--
Jim in NC


You can make the tailskid work on pavement with a boot. I have seen them
with wooden sacrificial blocks on them. The real problem with a tailskid
isn't landing on the runway. They are an absolute bugger to taxi on the
ramp! Especially if you have any airplanes to dodge. It takes a healthy
blast to get the tail up so you can kick it around and with no brakes you
will also get moving pretty fast with a couple of close turns. A friend of
mine has a Waco 10 with an OX-5 engine and a tailskid with no brakes. We
park it as close to the runway as we can to avoid taxi. Especially at
flyins! :-)

Highflyer
Highflight Aviation Services
Pinckneyville Airport ( PJY )

No, they do not.
I have a Airdrome DVIII and they fly well. I have an A65 in mine, gross
weight is 600lbs. If I where to do it again, it would have a VW with Valley
Redrive. Be about the same weight, but have starter and alternator, larger
prop.

Alan

"Mike Gaskins" wrote in message
oups.com...
Just out of curiosity: do the Airdrome Aeroplanes kits include brakes?
IIRC the original versions of most (all?) of these planes didn't have
them. I had always assumed that these replicas didn't either and that
was something that turned me off when looking at them. Aside from that
I've always kinda liked the look of the Fokker D-VIII .