FAR 91.130 and the Definite Article

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"G Farris" wrote in message
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I've done that too - I would certainly not enter a Class C under the
pretext that I was talking to Center. However I've never had the
unpleasant surprise of not getting handed off in time. If I did, I would
tell Center something like "remaining clear of class charlie until
established with approach" or something like that, while drawing circles
in the sky.


Why tell Center anything? Just leave his frequency and call approach.


Because of this:
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0401.html#4-1-14
Once you're with them they don't expect you to "just leave".

"G Farris" wrote in message
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Because of this:
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0401.html#4-1-14
Once you're with them they don't expect you to "just leave".


They've forgotten about you. If they knew you were still with them they'd
have either terminated radar services or transferred communications before
you were so far inside approach control airspace.

Because of this:
http://www.faa.gov/atpubs/AIM/Chap4/aim0401.html#4-1-14
Once you're with them they don't expect you to "just leave".


They've forgotten about you. If they knew you were still with them they'd
have either terminated radar services or transferred communications before
you were so far inside approach control airspace.

I've switched frequencies away from Chicago Center, when I could no longer
receive them (due to low altitudes) -- and they responded by calling the
airport manager at home, and having the poor schmuck go out to the airport
we landed at, looking for us.

They really don't like to have pilots leave their freq without permission.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I've switched frequencies away from Chicago Center, when I could no longer
receive them (due to low altitudes) -- and they responded by calling the
airport manager at home, and having the poor schmuck go out to the airport
we landed at, looking for us.

They really don't like to have pilots leave their freq without permission.


All you know for certain is that just one doesn't like it.

I've switched frequencies away from Chicago Center, when I could no
longer receive them (due to low altitudes) -- and they responded by
calling the airport manager at home, and having the poor schmuck go out
to the airport we landed at, looking for us.

They really don't like to have pilots leave their freq without
permission.


All you know for certain is that just one doesn't like it.

You really think that one controller in Chicago Center had the power and
authority to take it upon himself to call the airport manager at home and
drag his sorry heinie down to the airport, just because he was unhappy that
I lost radio contact with him?

The guy tracked me in to land at Rantoul, so he *knew* I was okay, which
eliminates the "he was concerned for my well-being" angle. So you think
this was just one guy with bean up his butt?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:



You really think that one controller in Chicago Center had the power and
authority to take it upon himself to call the airport manager at home and
drag his sorry heinie down to the airport, just because he was unhappy that
I lost radio contact with him?

The guy tracked me in to land at Rantoul, so he *knew* I was okay, which
eliminates the "he was concerned for my well-being" angle. So you think
this was just one guy with bean up his butt?


Of course not. There were several at the Center involved in this chain
of events.

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:1lmHf.549388$084.128499@attbi_s22...

You really think that one controller in Chicago Center had the power and
authority to take it upon himself to call the airport manager at home and
drag his sorry heinie down to the airport, just because he was unhappy
that I lost radio contact with him?


Sure. In Aurora it takes only one person to dial a telephone number. How
many are needed in Iowa City?



The guy tracked me in to land at Rantoul, so he *knew* I was okay, which
eliminates the "he was concerned for my well-being" angle. So you think
this was just one guy with bean up his butt?


How did he *know* you were okay?

As I explained to you at that time, ATC is required to initiate a search
when there is an unexpected loss of radar contact and radio communications
with any IFR or VFR aircraft. How do you know that was not what was being
done?