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In article k.net, Richard
Lamb says... I went out to Kitty Hawk Airfield last weekend to look at a CGS Hawk I was hoping to buy. The fellow I met with (Don) was very knowledgeable about the design - AND that particular airplane. I'm very impressed with Chuck's design, but I walked (ran?) away from this airplane. A few years ago some fool decided the plane needed more power and mounted an 80 hp Rotax 912 on it. (anybody here familiar with the Hawk?). On the first takeoff, the engine twisted plumb off the mount, cut the tailboom off and (obviously) crashed, killing the pilot. Rich any more info on this crash? I haven't heard about it .Usually any time a Hawk goes in I hear about it. Don was very up-front and honest about it - and the condition of the rebuilt machine. The tailboom was extended, the nose also, and a Rotax 582 installed. It weighs well over 350 pounds. But many of the other local "experts" call it a POS death trap. Unfortunately, it is still refered to as a CGS Hawk - and I'll bet my bottom dollar that Chuck S absolutely hates that. Unfortunately it happens more then I'd like it to. Every wants to be a designer and "improve" your airplane,then when there's problems they drop it on your lap. They will always call it a Hawk so they can sell it .Then some poor unsuspecting guy buys it and blames me for the problems because he was told it was a Hawk. Just about the same way I feel about what you fellows have done. Understood completely. See ya Chuck S Disgusted, Richard |
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
Rich any more info on this crash? I haven't heard about it .Usually any time a Hawk goes in I hear about it. That's what I wanted to contact you about. I couldn't raise you via email, hence the (old fashioned) airport page. (Guess ya had to be there...) This is probably best discussed off-line? Richard |
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In article .net, Richard Lamb
says... This is probably best discussed off-line? Hi Richard Makes no difference to me except it probably wouldn't be of interest to many here on RAH. Drop me a note at with any info you have. See ya Chuck S |
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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
In article .net, Richard Lamb says... This is probably best discussed off-line? Hi Richard Makes no difference to me except it probably wouldn't be of interest to many here on RAH. Drop me a note at with any info you have. See ya Chuck S Since I brought it up here, I thought it best to correct it here. Again. my apologies. Richard |
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Mr. Slusarczyk,
When you indicated that you had not heard of this alleged incident I had a horrible feeling I had done something very wrong. I checked the local news paper for accidents at the field in question and turned up nada. So I went back out to the field this afternoon and had a short conversation with the fellow who had told me about this. Kind of a very polite version of WTF, over? We quickly got to the heart of it, and I got a different read on the story. No, it didn't happen HERE, and this particular aircraft was not involved. So I took the (well known) name he gave me and did a quick google search (something I had neglected to do before relating this story to this group). Unfortunately, even that turned up negative. SAM died of cancer. I widened the search, adding the term "ultralight" and finally found something that may be related. "John", as it turns out. The story I found on NWA news had no details about the cause of the accident - only that an investigation was underway - and I found no follow up that shed any additional light to the subject. I fear I may have propagated an unfounded rumor as an alleged fact. My only feeble defense is that the level of detail described to me gave me the impression that I was hearing a first hand account from an eye witness. I'm convinced this fellow did not intentionally misled me. But I should have done my homework before bringing it up in public. Sir, please, if you can, accept my sincere apology for any negative publicity or embarrassment that I may have caused you by posting what may turn out to be misleading information. It was certainly not my intention to discredit you or your machine. Sincerely, Richard Lamb |
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In article .net, Richard Lamb
says... Mr. Slusarczyk, When you indicated that you had not heard of this alleged incident I had a horrible feeling I had done something very wrong. I checked the local news paper for accidents at the field in question and turned up nada. So I went back out to the field this afternoon and had a short conversation with the fellow who had told me about this. Kind of a very polite version of WTF, over? We quickly got to the heart of it, and I got a different read on the story. No, it didn't happen HERE, and this particular aircraft was not involved. So I took the (well known) name he gave me and did a quick google search (something I had neglected to do before relating this story to this group). Unfortunately, even that turned up negative. SAM died of cancer. I widened the search, adding the term "ultralight" and finally found something that may be related. "John", as it turns out. The story I found on NWA news had no details about the cause of the accident - only that an investigation was underway - and I found no follow up that shed any additional light to the subject. I fear I may have propagated an unfounded rumor as an alleged fact. My only feeble defense is that the level of detail described to me gave me the impression that I was hearing a first hand account from an eye witness. I'm convinced this fellow did not intentionally misled me. But I should have done my homework before bringing it up in public. Sir, please, if you can, accept my sincere apology for any negative publicity or embarrassment that I may have caused you by posting what may turn out to be misleading information. It was certainly not my intention to discredit you or your machine. Sincerely, Richard Lamb Richard I appreciate the correction and your strength of character to make it. Apology not required but accepted. I never questioned your intentions for a second. Now back to the fun stuff :-) See ya Chuck S |
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