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Old February 17th 06, 07:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Last AW was built May 1930. DC-6A and B were different airframe and
different wing than the DC-6. Not the same airplane by any stretch of the
imagination. 120, 140, 170, 190, 195 were in one form or another business
aircraft answering the original question. C3 was a business aircraft
built in '33 certified in '34, it was not an AA. It had a totally
different wing, extensive fuselage modificationas and obviously a
different engine than an AA and was certified as a C3 not an AA. The
C106, C106A and the P-10 were business aircraft built during the time
period in question.


The original question was what kind of Cessna business aircraft might have
replaced a Staggerwing taken for the war effort. Perhaps you believe the
war referred to was Korea or Vietnam, but I think most, like me, believe it
was WWII. That would rule out the 120, 140, 170, 190, and 195.

The C-106 project was a small transport for the military using a minimum of
strategic materials. One prototype flew under the registration NX24176, the
project was cancelled and the airplane scrapped before the end of the war.
It was not a business aircraft.

The C-106A was an improved version of the C-106. One prototype flew under
the registration NX44600. A contract for 500 was issued by the USAAF but
the project was cancelled before any were built. The sole airplane was
scrapped before the end of the war. It was not a business aircraft.

The P-10 was to be a high performance two place multiengine trainer in the
same class as the Curtiss AT-9. One prototype using many T-50 components
was completed and flew under the registration NX34751 in October 1941. The
military was not interested and the airplane was dismantled the following
year. It was not a business aircraft.

According to Bob Pickett, the official Cessna historian, and Mitch Mayborn,
who co-authored "Cessna Guidebook", the sole C-3 was an extensive
modification to AA c/n 124, NC5335. Changes included a NACA cowling over
the 125 hp Warner, a wider 4-place cabin, and a DC-6 type landing gear. The
rebuilt airplane was sold under the registration NC12568. I see no reason
to believe they are wrong and you are right.

The DC-6 was originally powered by a 170 hp Curtiss Challenger. All but the
first one were re-engined with the 225 hp Wright J-6-7, becoming equivalent
to the DC-6B. The DC-6A was built with a 300 hp J-6-9 and the DC-6B was
built with a 225 hp J-6-7.


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Old February 17th 06, 07:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Last AW was built May 1930. DC-6A and B were different airframe and
different wing than the DC-6. Not the same airplane by any stretch of
the
imagination. 120, 140, 170, 190, 195 were in one form or another business
aircraft answering the original question. C3 was a business aircraft
built in '33 certified in '34, it was not an AA. It had a totally
different wing, extensive fuselage modificationas and obviously a
different engine than an AA and was certified as a C3 not an AA. The
C106, C106A and the P-10 were business aircraft built during the time
period in question.


The original question was what kind of Cessna business aircraft might have
replaced a Staggerwing taken for the war effort. Perhaps you believe the
war referred to was Korea or Vietnam, but I think most, like me, believe
it was WWII. That would rule out the 120, 140, 170, 190, and 195.

The C-106 project was a small transport for the military using a minimum
of strategic materials. One prototype flew under the registration
NX24176, the project was cancelled and the airplane scrapped before the
end of the war. It was not a business aircraft.

The C-106A was an improved version of the C-106. One prototype flew under
the registration NX44600. A contract for 500 was issued by the USAAF but
the project was cancelled before any were built. The sole airplane was
scrapped before the end of the war. It was not a business aircraft.

The P-10 was to be a high performance two place multiengine trainer in the
same class as the Curtiss AT-9. One prototype using many T-50 components
was completed and flew under the registration NX34751 in October 1941.
The military was not interested and the airplane was dismantled the
following year. It was not a business aircraft.

According to Bob Pickett, the official Cessna historian, and Mitch
Mayborn, who co-authored "Cessna Guidebook", the sole C-3 was an extensive
modification to AA c/n 124, NC5335. Changes included a NACA cowling over
the 125 hp Warner, a wider 4-place cabin, and a DC-6 type landing gear.
The rebuilt airplane was sold under the registration NC12568. I see no
reason to believe they are wrong and you are right.

The DC-6 was originally powered by a 170 hp Curtiss Challenger. All but
the first one were re-engined with the 225 hp Wright J-6-7, becoming
equivalent to the DC-6B. The DC-6A was built with a 300 hp J-6-9 and the
DC-6B was built with a 225 hp J-6-7.



Sorry Steve but when it comes to Cessna history you aren't even in the ball
park. Quote Pickett and Mayborn from their paperback book and Ed Phillips
and an Eye to the Sky if you care to procure those books but you will still
have a long way to go.



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Old February 17th 06, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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Sorry Steve but when it comes to Cessna history you aren't even in the
ball park. Quote Pickett and Mayborn from their paperback book and Ed
Phillips and an Eye to the Sky if you care to procure those books but you
will still have a long way to go.


Okay. Let's see how extensive your knowledge of Cessna history is. What
businesses operated Cessna C-106s, C-106As, or P-10s? How many were built?
How many 120s, 140s, 170s, 190s, and 195s were built before the end of WWII?


 




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