Knee Jerks

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:57:33 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
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Across society, manners have become uncommon.


It starts at the top:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun24.html
"**** yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the
presidency.



Let me see ... Cheney swears, Clinton has extramarital sex in the White
House. Yes, it really is hard to see a good example at the top isn't it?


Matt

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:26:29 GMT, Matt Whiting
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Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:57:33 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
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Across society, manners have become uncommon.


It starts at the top:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun24.html
"**** yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the
presidency.



Let me see ... Cheney swears,

Cheney's senatorial blaspheme epitomizes the ethos of the Executive
branch. He defends torture and warrantless domestic invasion of
privacy.

Clinton has extramarital sex in the White House.

http://www.youth4him.com/articles/te...d_oral_sex.htm
Here's what one a 15-year-old girl from Wisconsin told USA Today's
Karen Peterson about oral sex: "Children from grades as early as
sixth or seventh who hang from the top rung of the popularity
ladder brag about activities such as these. The consensus in my
high school is that oral sex makes girls popular, whereas
intercourse would make them outcasts. The mentality is that oral
sex is as far as you can go without maintaining any level of
emotional attachment. It's something that happens at a party, is
whispered about between friends and forgotten about the next week.
Intercourse is, for some people, a huge leap from oral sex.
Intercourse is something that is carefully thought through."
(11/16/00).

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/...time/kirn.html
Though it's nowhere in sacred Scripture, the
oral-sex-isn't-really-sex distinction does have some secular
modern precedents. According to Black's Law Dictionary, oral sex
is not, technically, adultery (though in certain states it's
sodomy, a felony). What's more, reports Debbie Then, a California
social psychologist, it's common among professional American males
to view oral sex as a kind of moral freebie. Sexual folklore backs
up this attitude. In general, female prostitutes charge less for
fellatio than for intercourse. And teenage girls who have given
oral sex but haven't yet been vaginally penetrated tend to go on
regarding themselves as virgins.


Yes, it really is hard to see a good example at the top isn't it?

http://www.boston.com/globe/spotlight/abuse/
Sex scandals have resulted in the resignations of 19 Roman
Catholic prelates worldwide since 1990.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:26:29 GMT, Matt Whiting
wrote in ::


Larry Dighera wrote:

On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:57:33 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in
1tkIf.798152$xm3.724032@attbi_s21::



Across society, manners have become uncommon.


It starts at the top:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun24.html
"**** yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the
presidency.



Let me see ... Cheney swears,


Cheney's senatorial blaspheme epitomizes the ethos of the Executive
branch. He defends torture and warrantless domestic invasion of
privacy.


Clinton has extramarital sex in the White House.


http://www.youth4him.com/articles/te...d_oral_sex.htm
Here's what one a 15-year-old girl from Wisconsin told USA Today's
Karen Peterson about oral sex: "Children from grades as early as
sixth or seventh who hang from the top rung of the popularity
ladder brag about activities such as these. The consensus in my
high school is that oral sex makes girls popular, whereas
intercourse would make them outcasts. The mentality is that oral
sex is as far as you can go without maintaining any level of
emotional attachment. It's something that happens at a party, is
whispered about between friends and forgotten about the next week.
Intercourse is, for some people, a huge leap from oral sex.
Intercourse is something that is carefully thought through."
(11/16/00).

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/...time/kirn.html
Though it's nowhere in sacred Scripture, the
oral-sex-isn't-really-sex distinction does have some secular
modern precedents. According to Black's Law Dictionary, oral sex
is not, technically, adultery (though in certain states it's
sodomy, a felony). What's more, reports Debbie Then, a California
social psychologist, it's common among professional American males
to view oral sex as a kind of moral freebie. Sexual folklore backs
up this attitude. In general, female prostitutes charge less for
fellatio than for intercourse. And teenage girls who have given
oral sex but haven't yet been vaginally penetrated tend to go on
regarding themselves as virgins.

You Dems are all alike. You overlook or rationalize gross negligence
and misconduct and have hissy fits over a swear word. No wonder you
can't win the big elections. You need to learn what really matters and
what is trivial. Hint: illicit sex in the White House is worse than
swearing.

Matt

Larry, are you actually using the fact that 15 year old girls don't think a
blow job is sex as proof that a blow job isn't sex? Did you ever think that
the reason they believe this is that the President of the United States of
America said so?


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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Clinton has extramarital sex in the White House.

http://www.youth4him.com/articles/te...d_oral_sex.htm
Here's what one a 15-year-old girl from Wisconsin told USA Today's
Karen Peterson about oral sex: "Children from grades as early as
sixth or seventh who hang from the top rung of the popularity
ladder brag about activities such as these. The consensus in my
high school is that oral sex makes girls popular, whereas
intercourse would make them outcasts. The mentality is that oral
sex is as far as you can go without maintaining any level of
emotional attachment. It's something that happens at a party, is
whispered about between friends and forgotten about the next week.
Intercourse is, for some people, a huge leap from oral sex.
Intercourse is something that is carefully thought through."
(11/16/00).

Empirical evidence is not an element of proper formal reason.

Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Larry, are you actually using the fact that 15 year old girls don't think a
blow job is sex as proof that a blow job isn't sex? Did you ever think that
the reason they believe this is that the President of the United States of
America said so?


Only because it happened to agree with their position. Ordinarily, I doubt very
seriously any 15 year old girl gives a **** what the POTUS has to say.



--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN

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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
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Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
Larry, are you actually using the fact that 15 year old girls don't think
a
blow job is sex as proof that a blow job isn't sex? Did you ever think
that
the reason they believe this is that the President of the United States
of
America said so?


Only because it happened to agree with their position. Ordinarily, I
doubt very seriously any 15 year old girl gives a **** what the POTUS has
to say.



--

You are probably right but it could have been the fact that they have heard
the liberal adults in their life arguing the fact with the conservative
adults in their life.

That said, I'd still not use the position of 15 year old girls as evidence
in any debate on any topic that wasn't about the mall.