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"Newps" wrote in message
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Doug wrote:
Well...... there was a guy handproping his Aeronca. It started and got
away from him with a full throttle. Plane took off, flew around till it
ran out of gas. They found it undamaged and upright on some farmers
field.

Never happened.

But it did happen to the guy in a Cherokee that fell asleep.

How did the Cherokee fall asleep?

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How did the Cherokee fall asleep?

Easy, big meal, wine, soft music and a good fire in the fire place.

With an Apache squaw?


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Dave Stadt wrote:

"Newps" wrote in message
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Doug wrote:

Well...... there was a guy handproping his Aeronca. It started and got
away from him with a full throttle. Plane took off, flew around till it
ran out of gas. They found it undamaged and upright on some farmers
field.

Never happened.


But it did happen to the guy in a Cherokee that fell asleep.


It was a Commanche and it was totalled after it crash landed. No
airplane has ever taken off and flown for more than a few seconds
without the ending being a hell of a wreck.

Newps wrote:

It was a Commanche and it was totalled after it crash landed. No
airplane has ever taken off and flown for more than a few seconds
without the ending being a hell of a wreck.

I distinctly remember a case of a tail dragger here in central NY back in
the early to mid 1980s where the pilot hopped out after landing to do
something quick and the aircraft, left at a high idle, did take off on its
own, due to the trim being set nose up.

The news account of this incident described the aircraft climbing a bit,
then stalling and regaining lift then climbing some more. This went on for
roughly 45 minutes until the aircraft ran out of fuel and settled in some
trees somewhere in the south of the Adirondack State park.

Knowing you will scream "bull****" to this as well, I am trying to find a
source other than my memory of the news account to prove this and am in the
process of searching.


--
Peter

Peter R. wrote:

Knowing you will scream "bull****" to this as well, I am trying to find a
source other than my memory of the news account to prove this and am in the
process of searching.


If it ever really happened or not is one thing...

I can't understand why a simple airplane _couldn't_ take off and fly
itself if properly trimmed and the open space were available. Models do
it all the time, using the same rules of physics. Any inherently stable
design will self-correct in flight.

Any of us who have trimmed small aircraft to fly themselves off the
runway should be able to see this as well.

A full-scale aircraft landing itself is a whole 'nuther day... G

Peter R. wrote:

Newps wrote:


It was a Commanche and it was totalled after it crash landed. No
airplane has ever taken off and flown for more than a few seconds
without the ending being a hell of a wreck.


I distinctly remember a case of a tail dragger here in central NY back in
the early to mid 1980s where the pilot hopped out after landing to do
something quick and the aircraft, left at a high idle, did take off on its
own, due to the trim being set nose up.

The news account of this incident described the aircraft climbing a bit,
then stalling and regaining lift then climbing some more. This went on for
roughly 45 minutes until the aircraft ran out of fuel and settled in some
trees somewhere in the south of the Adirondack State park.

Knowing you will scream "bull****" to this as well, I am trying to find a
source other than my memory of the news account to prove this and am in the
process of searching.

I knew about the Commanche because a magazine like Plane and Pilot or
Private Pilot did an article on it a few years ago. There was an exhaust
leak into the cabin and the guy passed out due to CO poisoning. They
showed the picture of the plane on the ground after the crash. There
was a Bonanza that this happened to about 75 miles SW of here about 5
years ago.

On 2006-02-22, Newps wrote:
It was a Commanche and it was totalled after it crash landed. No
airplane has ever taken off and flown for more than a few seconds
without the ending being a hell of a wreck.

There was a pilotless small tailwheel aircraft in Illinois that got away
from the person hand-propping it, then went on to fly a couple of hours
(pilotless) before landing in a field in what looked like a passable
forced landing (the aircraft was damaged, but not a 'hell of a wreck').

Unfortunately I can't find the magic incantations to bring up the NTSB
report - the details I remember is that the plane climbed to over 12000
feet and a police aircraft followed it for a while.

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