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Barnyard BOb -- wrote in message . ..
One more Time wrote: Corrie wrote: Let me repeat myself Mr. Zealot just how prey tell was YOUR GOD refining HIS people when those other teenage boys and girls were shot dead. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ May I predict.... No way will you ever receive an acceptable explanation. Barnyard BOb -- Pac sez: Well Bob, let me try to give them both an acceptable explanation. O.K. Rah here it is: Loosing a few people from things like this just isn't very important in the big scheme of things. Corrie, your missionary supporters started it so I'll finish it. Your ancient faith and the science worlds' methodical faith remind me of the tale of "four blind men and an elephant." Each constantly argues about the discoveries he's made over at "his tree" or "his snake" without considering the possibility that the two are connected. Just what makes a God anyway? A God, IMHO, is nothing more than a relative comparison between greatly disparate phenomenon. You are a God relative to the ants you smash everyday on the sidewalk. Relative to the local tribal natives they frequently encountered, the great Conquistadors were, by relative terms Gods. In fact, they were often mistaken for such; ie Cortez at the Aztec shores in the 1500's. Walking on water with their magnificent ships and then striding into the village, unafraid of anything, mounted on their previously unseen horses, and sitting in their marvelous suits of armor (some of those things resembled the craftsmanship of finely fitted Mercedes Benz autos; like the suits on display at the Tower of London.) ....Why they couldn't possibly be anything else but Gods. In the 1500's this effect was used to convert peoples all over the Spanish empire under the sanction of the Pope (your missionary friends do the same thing in the third world. They wow the locals with their beads and trinkets, while taking credit for the short-field feats of the Cessna 206.) The Hubble telescope combined with other ground instruments and spacecraft has made it apparent that "outer space" is anything but empty. We keep on discovering more and more structure. It's clear to me that relative to you dweebs this structure is part of a greater grand design (although we'll never know in our lifetimes what it is.) But tunneling-electron microscope images can give us a clue. You zealots continue to try to convert the whole world into your recent religion not realizing that evolution and science are the other side of the God coin that you myopically stare at. Blank and White, Who's right, who's wrong translations from more than 2000 years ago don't cut it. As usual the truth lies in middle. This bit of wisdom will cost you a mandatory/voluntary contribution to the "Church in the Air." which I'm founding in about five minutes. pacplyer Reverand and High Captain of the holy Airwaves |
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On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, pac plyer wrote:
You zealots continue to try to convert the whole world into your recent religion not realizing that evolution and science are the other side of the God coin that you myopically stare at. Blank and White, Who's right, who's wrong translations from more than 2000 years ago don't cut it. As usual the truth lies in middle. Apparently there's a good sized chunk of the scientific picture with which you're unfamiliar. Read this book, then come back and we can discuss it from a more educated perspective. Title: The Fingerprint of God Author: Hugh Ross ISBN: 0883686279 Should be available at any bookstore. -Dan (My apologies for the off topic post.) |
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gringomasloco thundered from the pulpit:
Read this book, then come back and we can discuss it from a more educated perspective. Title: The Fingerprint of God Author: Hugh Ross ISBN: 0883686279 I've already read all that "Late great planet earth, biblethumping drivel by psedo-scientists and I haven't got time to waste on that. I've got objective books by Steven Hawkins, A brief moment in time, Robert Jastrow etc to read. But why don't you educate yourself on this one: Title: On the Origin of Species Author: Charles Darwin It's available at *all* bookstores everywhere. Evolutionarily, Your distant relative, pacplyer |
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On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, pac plyer wrote:
Title: The Fingerprint of God Author: Hugh Ross ISBN: 0883686279 I've already read all that "Late great planet earth, biblethumping drivel by psedo-scientists and I haven't got time to waste on that. Wow. So much for your concerned-about-scientific-truth facade. I've seen some real misguided religious zeal in my time, but you're right up there with the best of them. Betcha don't think of yourself as a religious zealot, do you? Well, I don't know any other term for hanging dogmatically to a viewpoint while knee-jerk ridiculing anything you think might be opposed to it, without even bothering to make sure you understand what it is you're ridiculing. I haven't got time to waste on the things you mention either, they have absolutely nothing to do with me or Hugh Ross, and I have no interest in discussing them. Sorry. I've got objective books by Steven Hawkins, A brief moment in time, (I assume you mean Stephen Hawking, A Brief History of Time?) Isn't he an atheist? As such, how is he going to write anything objective about God's existence or lack thereof? Or do you think he's objective _because_ he's an atheist? What an objective, scientific paradigm _that_ would be. -Dan P.S. I am now out of this discussion. I only got into it in the first place because I thought I saw some interest in the scientific aspect of the question at hand. Clearly I was mistaken. |
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