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Well, I'll bite, too. In retrospect, I guess my intial reaction was due
to a coincidence of two irritating moments: (1) A shameless plug from a dealer for a certain plane, with absolutely no valuable information at all. It could have been an ETA, a Duo Discus, an ASH-25 or whatever, and I would still have criticised the original post as the covert advertisement it is. (2) The shameless plug actually promoted a PW-5/6, which in my very humble opinion (though shared by many others) is a couple of offensively ugly gliders. This probably made my initial statement a bit more "spicy" than necessary. ;-) Answering your question, I would recommend a combination of ASK-21 and LS-4, both quite versatile gliders, usable for teaching but also in competitions. And no, these are not the only gliders I have flown in my life. And yes, these are the gliders I have been trained on, and I still think it was an excellent choice of our gliding club to transition from BF III/IV + K8. For XC-teaching we have come to use Duo Discus, which for the student is the 2nd two seater glider he/she will learn to fly. The Duo is of course far superior for XC than the ASK-21 and at the same time offers the student the possibility to hone his/her gliding skills: Starting and landning is less easy than ASK-21, but the reward is far better performance. |
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![]() (2) The shameless plug actually promoted a PW-5/6, which in my very humble opinion (though shared by many others) is a couple of offensively ugly gliders. This probably made my initial statement a bit more "spicy" than necessary. ;-) Answering your question, I would recommend a combination of ASK-21 and LS-4, both quite versatile gliders, usable for teaching but also in competitions. Agreed on pewee 5, but how exactly is Ask-21 better than Pewee 6? Other than brand new price tag being doubled or so. Same 1:31 gliding ratio according to SM testing, so you hypothesis is based on the same idea people go and buy MB cars thinking they've just got a better build, reliable flashy vehicle soon thereafter they realize it's a flashy Ford quality money pit. My club picks would be Pewee 6 - for a price of 20 year old Ask-21 used in a club you can get a new one and Ls-4. |
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Hmmm, I don't know the price tag in the US (assuming you have a north
american perspective on things)... but over here in Europa the ASK-21 is not that expensive and it's a very sustainable strategy for a bigger gliding club to actually by a new ASK-21 when the old one has reached a certain flight time limit, and to sell off the old one for a good price on the second hand market. However, I do share your opinion on the MB... ![]() |
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