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Old March 24th 06, 03:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
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Martin's posts are RARELY, if ever, on topic.


And Martin himself is seldom, if ever, "on track".



"Peter Duniho" wrote in message
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"Martin Hotze" wrote in message
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so it now is clear that the aviation content (and possible copyright
issues) are directly linked to Jay's *business*.


And you're posting that here because, why?

Assuming Jay's engaging in spam and copyright violation (and that's far

from
a foregone conclusion), how is that an on-topic post here?

Pete






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Old March 24th 06, 04:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Matt Barrow" wrote)
"Marco Leon" mmleon(at)yahoo.com wrote in message
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Martin's posts are RARELY, if ever, on topic.


And Martin himself is seldom, if ever, "on track".



Well, Marty's ours and we're keeping him. "How you doing Marty?" :-)

Another "shout out" goes to Marco Leon. I never get to see your posts
anymore unless someone quotes you, or I whip over into Google Groups and
find you there. It's that Supernews? Superfeed? problem. I'm missing someone
else, too - can't remember who at the moment.

Marty's a little like a terrier on a pant cuff with this issue. That said, I
do think his post is (100%) on topic for this group - doesn't mean he's
(100%) right ...or (100%) wrong.

I am sure (100%) that I appreciate all the work Jay and Jav have done
compiling that page.


Montblacklab

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Old March 24th 06, 04:24 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Montblack wrote:

Another "shout out" goes to Marco Leon. I never get to see your posts
anymore unless someone quotes you, or I whip over into Google Groups and
find you there. It's that Supernews? Superfeed? problem. I'm missing someone
else, too - can't remember who at the moment.


In looking at Marco's posts' headers, it appears he posts through a
Newsfeeds.com reseller and your news provider is purposely blocking
Newsfeeds-originating posts.

Giganews (my new Usenet provider, having switched from Newsfeeds a few
months ago) is not, as of yet, blocking Newsfeeds.com posts.

--
Peter
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Old March 24th 06, 07:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter R." wrote in message
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In looking at Marco's posts' headers, it appears he posts through a
Newsfeeds.com reseller and your news provider is purposely blocking
Newsfeeds-originating posts.

Giganews (my new Usenet provider, having switched from Newsfeeds a few
months ago) is not, as of yet, blocking Newsfeeds.com posts.


How do you like Giganews? I'd like to switch to one that doesn't keep adding
that annoying tag line at the bottom.

Marco



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Old March 24th 06, 10:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Marco Leon mmleonyahoo.com wrote:

How do you like Giganews? I'd like to switch to one that doesn't keep adding
that annoying tag line at the bottom.


Marco, I was a Newsfeeds.com customer for six-plus years and I have a list
a mile long of the problems I had with them.

So far, I have been *very* happy with Giganews. One hundred percent
reliability since I have been with them (Newsfeeds would have had at least
one problem in the last three months), speed is excellent, and their
retention is the best in the business.

The only issue is that the monthly cost is almost double what NF was
charging, depending on the tier you choose. But, to me, it is worth it.

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Old March 24th 06, 07:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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Well, Marty's ours and we're keeping him. "How you doing Marty?" :-)

Another "shout out" goes to Marco Leon. I never get to see your posts
anymore unless someone quotes you, or I whip over into Google Groups and
find you there. It's that Supernews? Superfeed? problem. I'm missing
someone else, too - can't remember who at the moment.


Supernews. They are blocking Marco's news service.

I have been pursuing this through my own ISP, and have gotten basically the
same brick wall Peter got, just from the other side. My ISP has attempted
to get a comment from Supernews about the issue, and Supernews keeps
stonewalling them. The abuse department doesn't return email or phone
calls, and the technical department hides behind "we can't comment due to
privacy concerns" crap.

Personally, I think it's a load of crap, and I'm disgusted with my own ISP
for putting up with the load of crap rather than switching news providers.
But I also suspect that there's some validity to whatever reason it is that
Newsfeeds is being blocked, based on some of what I've read about them on
the news service review web sites.

I'm disappointed that there are some people whose posts I can't see, but not
so much that I'm motivated to jostle my existing Internet service. I don't
see hordes of other people dropping Supernews, so I guess for now I'll
console myself with "no one else is doing it".

Pete


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Old March 24th 06, 09:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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Well, Marty's ours and we're keeping him. "How you doing Marty?" :-)

Another "shout out" goes to Marco Leon. I never get to see your posts
anymore unless someone quotes you, or I whip over into Google Groups
and find you there. It's that Supernews? Superfeed? problem. I'm
missing someone else, too - can't remember who at the moment.


Supernews. They are blocking Marco's news service.

I have been pursuing this through my own ISP, and have gotten basically
the same brick wall Peter got, just from the other side. My ISP has
attempted to get a comment from Supernews about the issue, and Supernews
keeps stonewalling them. The abuse department doesn't return email or
phone calls, and the technical department hides behind "we can't comment
due to privacy concerns" crap.

Personally, I think it's a load of crap, and I'm disgusted with my own
ISP for putting up with the load of crap rather than switching news
providers. But I also suspect that there's some validity to whatever
reason it is that Newsfeeds is being blocked, based on some of what I've
read about them on the news service review web sites.

I'm disappointed that there are some people whose posts I can't see, but
not so much that I'm motivated to jostle my existing Internet service.
I don't see hordes of other people dropping Supernews, so I guess for
now I'll console myself with "no one else is doing it".

Pete


I was the one that originally brought this issue up in this group.
Apologies for it being so off topic, but it obviously affects more
than just me.

I've continued to press the issue in Supernews' support groups when
I can, like recently when someone else ran into the problem. Of course,
Supernews stays quiet, and other readers of the support group continue
to take pot shots at me. I was even called "altruistic", as if that was
a bad thing!

I had found some information about Newsfeeds that really paints them
in a bad light. Apparently they were a major source of spam at one
time. I do not know if this is still the case.

However, Supernews' attitude, that is, ignoring any questions on the
topic, is not justified. They have gladly helped me on other issues,
even through "improper" channels, and even discussed with me other
filters. The only reply I ever got about Newsfeeds was that it was not
their policy to discuss their filters. See the hypocrisy?

Anway, apologies again for this being so off topic. But I just feel
it's not good for those who actually pay for their NSP to have to put
up with crap like that.

Yes, I'm being altruistic.

Brian
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Old March 25th 06, 01:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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Anway, apologies again for this being so off topic. But I just feel
it's not good for those who actually pay for their NSP to have to put
up with crap like that.


Well, if I were paying Supernews directly, you can bet I'd switch in a
heartbeat. Their service is included in a broader contract for my broadband
service, which I'm otherwise satisfied with. I can only pressure them so
much, until I have to put up or shut up.

I have a suspicion that if Supernews *did* comment on their block of
Newsfeeds, I'd find myself thinking it was reasonable. My main complaint is
not the block, so much as it is their unwillingness to talk about it. So
far, not enough to make me drop my whole Internet package.

Yes, I'm being altruistic.


Damn you!



Pete


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Old March 25th 06, 04:37 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Peter Duniho" wrote in
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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Anway, apologies again for this being so off topic. But I just feel
it's not good for those who actually pay for their NSP to have to put
up with crap like that.


Well, if I were paying Supernews directly, you can bet I'd switch in a
heartbeat. Their service is included in a broader contract for my
broadband service, which I'm otherwise satisfied with. I can only
pressure them so much, until I have to put up or shut up.


Yes, I'm in the same boat. I get SN through my ISP for "free".


I have a suspicion that if Supernews *did* comment on their block of
Newsfeeds, I'd find myself thinking it was reasonable. My main
complaint is not the block, so much as it is their unwillingness to talk
about it. So far, not enough to make me drop my whole Internet package.


My suspicion is that if they admited to blocking Newsfeeds,
it would give them bad press and cause them to loose some
customers. Most companies don't give a fluck about loosing a
few customers...there's always more suckers to replace them.
But perhaps they feel they might loose too many.

Or perhaps they'd get a bad rap amongst other NSP's.

Brian
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Old March 25th 06, 06:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skywise" wrote in message
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My suspicion is that if they admited to blocking Newsfeeds,
it would give them bad press and cause them to loose some
customers.


They may have some irrational thought process like that, but there's no
logical reason for them to withhold the information.

Assuming they have a valid reason to block Newsfeeds, I can't imagine any
customer leaving them over the issue. And they shouldn't be worried about
libel, since as long as they have a truthful reason for blocking Newsfeeds,
saying something bad about Newsfeeds isn't actionable.

And of course, there's the point that whether they admit it or not, it is
blatantly obvious that they ARE blocking Newsfeeds, and are doing so
intentionally. That much is evident simply by their behavior.

I certainly have run into my share of irrational people in customer support
roles. It's nothing new for me to be running into it with this issue.

Illogical people are the bane of my existence.

Pete


 




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