Shafted by the Transport Canada?

"Doug" wrote in message
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I don't know if this will help you, but if you file an itinerary with a
responsible person, then you don't have to file a flight plan. An
itinerary is just a record of your trip. A lot of pilots file with
their wife, but it could be anybody.

No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

"Chris" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

Not always... Was flying back to Houston from SoCal a few years ago and
landing in El Paso for the night and and to refuel... I was routed well
across the border by ATC and asked them about it... They said that they
controlled the Mexican airspace, so it wouldn't be a problem... I have to
think that if I had needed to make an emergency landing while south of the
border, it defintely would have been a problem since Mexico tends to take a
dim view of us bringing firearms into their country... And, of course, since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...

"Grumman-581" wrote in message
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"Chris" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

Not always... Was flying back to Houston from SoCal a few years ago and
landing in El Paso for the night and and to refuel... I was routed well
across the border by ATC and asked them about it... They said that they
controlled the Mexican airspace, so it wouldn't be a problem... I have to
think that if I had needed to make an emergency landing while south of the
border, it defintely would have been a problem since Mexico tends to take
a
dim view of us bringing firearms into their country... And, of course,
since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...


I've flown from the Phoenix area to KELP a few times, each time with vectors
into "Mexican" airspace... however that airspace was still under control of
American FAA controlers. Now if i had proceeded INTO mexico then i would
get handed off to a Mex controler, and would probably need the DVFR flight
plan and all that good stuff. The big kicker is not in CROSSING a border
but LANDING across a border. Course everytime i went down I filed IFR, tho
the wx was severe clear (aside from the big brown cloud over Juarez, MX, i
thought PHX was bad!).

"nooneimportant" wrote in message
news:stZVf.1862$qd.737@fed1read08...
Course everytime i went down I filed IFR, tho
the wx was severe clear (aside from the big
brown cloud over Juarez, MX, i thought PHX
was bad!).

Higher concentration of refried beans in Juarez than in Phoenix, I
suspect...

And, of course, since
I'm a Texan, I *always* have a gun or two in my plane...
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Then you are good to fly with me anytime... I hate hauling mooches who
expect me to supply the plane, the gas, and the shootin irons...

Reminds me of the time Frank, a third cousin from Arizona, came to
Michigan to visit family he had never seen... Frank had this good ol
pickemup truck, so me and another cousin jumped in and went to the
county fair all teenagers at the time... Whilst at the fair we
managed to get an older friend to buy a couple of pitchers of beer at
the FFA concession... Couldn't buy em myself because an aunt was at the
cash register and she was pretty strait laced - for you city folks,
that's how small towns used to be... Anyway, we were feeling pretty
cheerful on the way home and Frank allowed as how we ought do some
shooting, so we stopped the edge of my dad's woods.. Frank then rooted
around under the seat and came up with a six shooter... I was feeling
cheerful from the beer but I still knew the law... I mentioned to Frank
that in Michigan waving a handgun without a concealed carry permit was
a definite no-no... He was incredulous...
"Whut kinda state is this?", he said?
So, after doing some shooting we went on up to the house... He was
leaving back to Arizona the next morning so I suggested I had an old
steel tool box and a padlock that I would give him to lock his shooting
iron in for the trip back in case he got stopped by the highway
patrol..
"Well OK.", he says, "If it will hold my other guns."
That stopped even cousin Dave who wasn't holding his beer to well...
"Cripes, how many guns you got in here?", says I...
"Geez, I dunno, let me look."
After rooting around under the seats, behind the seat back, in the
glove compartment, and under the dash he came up with five more,
"shootin irons"! Including one he had forgotten about, "I wundered
whur thet one went to."

It was a different world back then... Opening day of bird hunting
season we got out of high school at 11AM to be out in the fields by the
noon starting time... The teachers and principal would all come out to
the parking lot and go around looking at everyones' shotguns and to
show off their shotguns... So we would have 50, or more, teenagers and
adults milling around with shotguns in their hands, on the school
grounds... Can you imagine the reaction to that today?

denny

("Denny" wrote)
It was a different world back then... Opening day of bird hunting season
we got out of high school at 11AM to be out in the fields by the noon
starting time... The teachers and principal would all come out to the
parking lot and go around looking at everyones' shotguns and to show off
their shotguns... So we would have 50, or more, teenagers and adults
milling around with shotguns in their hands, on the school grounds... Can
you imagine the reaction to that today?


Shop class project in 1973 - gun rack. One kid made a very nice wooden
hunting bow, which he later brought home on the school bus.

Forward to 2004. We're over at the local gun club (same land they want to
build the new Vikings Stadium on) and a couple of school buses full of high
school kids pull into the parking lot. Many of the kids are wearing their
letter jackets.

Bam, bam, bam, bam. They start blasting away at the clay targets with their
shotguns. "Pull." Bam, bam, bam, bam. I'm guessing five kids (boys and
girls) were shooting at any one time. There were maybe 50 kids there that
day, milling around, talking, laughing, shooting, drinking their pops and
waters.

The teacher and two other adults were hanging back around the picnic tables,
chatting, keeping an eye on things - talking to the kids who were finished
shooting. Maybe they were logging the scores?

My friend and I were dumbstruck, it was so cool.


Montblack

"Denny" wrote in news:1143501960.738336.228340
@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com:

Snipola
It was a different world back then... Opening day of bird hunting
season we got out of high school at 11AM to be out in the fields by the
noon starting time... The teachers and principal would all come out to
the parking lot and go around looking at everyones' shotguns and to
show off their shotguns... So we would have 50, or more, teenagers and
adults milling around with shotguns in their hands, on the school
grounds... Can you imagine the reaction to that today?

denny

Back in '86 in high school, many kids dressed up for Halloween.
One girl I knew dressed as a police officer, borrowing one of her
fathers uniforms. She even had the .38. No bullets, of course. In
chemistry class we were playing with it and the teacher caught us.
"Put that away and pay attention."

Several years ago a kid was expelled from a school because he had a
keychain fob in the shape of a gun, about 1 inch in size, no moving
parts. "Zero tolerance policy".

Yes, times have changed.

Brian
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In a previous article, Skywise said:
Several years ago a kid was expelled from a school because he had a
keychain fob in the shape of a gun, about 1 inch in size, no moving
parts. "Zero tolerance policy".

Zero Tolerance: Because it's easier than thinking.

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#define sizeof(x) ((int)rand()*1024)

("Paul Tomblin" wrote)
Several years ago a kid was expelled from a school because he had a
keychain fob in the shape of a gun, about 1 inch in size, no moving parts.
"Zero tolerance policy".

Zero Tolerance: Because it's easier than thinking.


http://www.religioustolerance.org/sikhism4.htm
or
http://www.canadianchristianity.com/cgi-bin/na.cgi?nationalupdates/060309daggers
or
http://www.sepiamutiny.com/sepia/archives/003081.html

Don't even get me started ...!!!!!!

http://altreligion.about.com/library...defskirpan.htm
It's not a weapon because "they" claim it's not a weapon?? That's ok...but
Johnny draws a tank, with soldiers next to it, in 3rd grade and he's
suspended. WTF???


Montblackandwhitesometimes

"Montblack" wrote in
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Snipola
ok...but Johnny draws a tank, with soldiers next to it, in 3rd grade and
he's suspended. WTF???

This comment about drawing a tank reminded me of a game me and
a few classmates used to play. We had this way of drawing 'bombs'
that had to be solved within a time limit and hide them in each
others desks & bookbags. Sheesh...today we'd probably be considered
suicide bombers in training.

Brian
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Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
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