Shafted by the Transport Canada?

No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

No you don't.
When flying from Columbus, Ohio to Port Huron, Michigan, I overfly
Ontario to get there without filing a flight plan. I don't even talk to
anyone the whole route.

"john smith" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

No you don't.
When flying from Columbus, Ohio to Port Huron, Michigan, I overfly
Ontario to get there without filing a flight plan. I don't even talk to
anyone the whole route.

well done for waking up!

"john smith" wrote in message
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No a flight plan must be filed when crossing an international border.

No you don't.
When flying from Columbus, Ohio to Port Huron, Michigan, I overfly
Ontario to get there without filing a flight plan. I don't even talk to
anyone the whole route.

Explain why you aren't aware of this:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/pu...71/FAL/2-0.htm
"Private aircraft overflying or landing in Canada for non-commercial
purposes need not obtain prior permission; however, a flight plan must be
filed."

Common sense should tell you that what you state as fact is a bad idea. Did
you ask anyone or otherwise try to educate yourself on this issue before
taking off?

FYI, as one might suspect, it's the same in the States:

http://www.faa.gov/ats/aat/ifim/ifimcaai.htm

Especially since 9/11, and especially in the USA, a pilot is in serious ****
if they enter foreign airspace and in really deep **** if they land without
following proper procedures. How does that affect your decision making
process vis a vis some problem that doesn't absolutely require a diversion
but might suggest a prudent brief stop to check something out?

moo

In article ,
"Happy Dog" wrote:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/pu...71/FAL/2-0.htm

What date did that go into effect?
Not including Lake Eric and Lake St Claire, I cross maybe five miles of
Canadian soil.

"john smith" wrote in message
In article ,
"Happy Dog" wrote:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/pu...71/FAL/2-0.htm

What date did that go into effect?

Dunno. Ask them.

Not including Lake Eric and Lake St Claire, I cross maybe five miles of
Canadian soil.

You really shouldn't make this sort of public statement.

moo

john smith wrote:
In article ,
"Happy Dog" wrote:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/pu...71/FAL/2-0.htm

What date did that go into effect?
Not including Lake Eric and Lake St Claire, I cross maybe five miles of
Canadian soil.

This has always been in effect, even before 9/11. Technically, the
border begins somewhere near the middle of Lake Erie, not when you
cross the shoreline.

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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john smith wrote:
In article ,
"Happy Dog" wrote:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/pu...71/FAL/2-0.htm

What date did that go into effect?
Not including Lake Eric and Lake St Claire, I cross maybe five miles of
Canadian soil.

This has always been in effect, even before 9/11. Technically, the
border begins somewhere near the middle of Lake Erie, not when you
cross the shoreline.

The border is shown clear on the charts, that's if you use them of course.

On Sun, 02 Apr 2006 21:45:45 GMT, john smith wrote:

In article ,
"Happy Dog" wrote:

http://www.tc.gc.ca/CivilAviation/pu...71/FAL/2-0.htm

What date did that go into effect?
Not including Lake Eric and Lake St Claire, I cross maybe five miles of
Canadian soil.

It was in effect in the early 1980's.
Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

"Happy Dog" wrote:

"Private aircraft overflying or landing in Canada for non-commercial
purposes need not obtain prior permission; however, a flight plan must
be filed."

How are you supposed to handle it if you are vectored over Canada by ATC,
since US ATC controls some Canadian airspace? You might not be expecting
to fly over Canada, and therefore wouldn't necessarily have needed to file
a flight plan.

"James Robinson" wrote in message
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How are you supposed to handle it if you are vectored over Canada by ATC

You tell ATC "unable".