Shafted by the Transport Canada?

"James Robinson" wrote in message
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"Happy Dog" wrote:

"Private aircraft overflying or landing in Canada for non-commercial
purposes need not obtain prior permission; however, a flight plan must
be filed."

How are you supposed to handle it if you are vectored over Canada by ATC,
since US ATC controls some Canadian airspace? You might not be expecting
to fly over Canada, and therefore wouldn't necessarily have needed to file
a flight plan.

Unlikely to happen. As another poster said, reply "unable". If you pooch
this you're dealing with people who will be unhelpful. When flying across
the US/Canada border, you often don't talk to ATC in the destination country
until you're well past the border. This made me very uncomfortable after
9/11 because the rules state that you must be incontact with destination ATC
before crossing the border. The response (including conversations with ATC
pals) is that you are in contact because *they* are in contact with each
other and this is how they handle most flights. Fair enough. I doubt that
anyone will get busted over this. But if anyone does, it won't be ATC.

moo

I have flown across Canada for decades without talking to ATC or
filing a flight plan... I have stopped doing that since 9/11 - period!

It doesn't matter whether you are just crossing over the Windsor VOR
for a few miles, or flying hundreds of miles into Canada.. It is a
violation of International Law to do so without a flight plan, and I
can guarantee you that the Homeland Security folks will be more than
happy to 'fold, spindle, and mutilate', and then go get their pats on
the back for "protecting" the country...

Now, avoiding that is stone simple... File a flight plan... OTOH, if
you forget and realize you are going to enter Canadian airspace (or
exit) simply call ATC and ask for Flight Following... That generates a
squawk code, you are in contact with ATC, and while it doesn't meet the
letter of the law, it demonstrates that you are a team player, not a
terrorist...

denny

"Denny" wrote

It doesn't matter whether you are just crossing over the Windsor VOR
for a few miles, or flying hundreds of miles into Canada.. It is a
violation of International Law to do so without a flight plan, and I
can guarantee you that the Homeland Security folks will be more than
happy to 'fold, spindle, and mutilate', and then go get their pats on
the back for "protecting" the country...

I would be willing to bet that there are many GA flights that nip the corner
of Canadian airspace quite regularly, and that Canadian ATC is more than
willing to "not notice" it happening.

Can you imagine how much extra work that would be for them, for flights only
in their airspace for a couple minutes, each?

Cops never stop pulling people over, when their shift is almost over,
either. Right.

They also stop speeders when they are just 1 MPH over the speed limit,
because after all, they are speeding. Yeah, right. Not.

I could be wrong. In that case, "never mind." g
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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They also stop speeders when they are just 1 MPH over the speed limit,
because after all, they are speeding. Yeah, right. Not.

Depends upon how greedy they are... In some of the small town speed traps,
they did exactly that... I can remember a certain little town that if you
were going 1 mph over the speed limit on a motorcycle, you were pretty much
guaranteed a ticket... Motorcycles had a bad rep back then and the cops
hated us...