With the wind?

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 01:21:56 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:

Maverick: "Requesting permission for flyby."


"Cleared for the option"

All right, all right! I hear this all the time (well, I hear it
sometimes) at PSM nearby.

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

In other words, is it a way of saying "your request is approved"?

(The problem, I suppose, is that with a handheld I didn't hear the
request.)



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What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

It means the pilot can land to a full stop, or touch and go, or do a low
approach to the runway ("peek and go?") without advising the controller
which option he will pick. Otherwise, if you are cleard for (say) a
touch and go, you are not cleared to do a full stop landing - you'd have
to tell him you want a full stop and he would have to clear you for that.

Jose
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Jose wrote:

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?


It means the pilot can land to a full stop, or touch and go, or do a low
approach to the runway ("peek and go?") without advising the controller
which option he will pick.

As well as a stop and go.

On Wed, 05 Apr 2006 13:31:41 GMT, Jose
wrote:

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

It means the pilot can land to a full stop, or touch and go, or do a low
approach to the runway ("peek and go?") without advising the controller
which option he will pick. Otherwise, if you are cleard for (say) a
touch and go, you are not cleared to do a full stop landing - you'd have
to tell him you want a full stop and he would have to clear you for that.

Thank you!


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"Cub Driver" usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in message
...

All right, all right! I hear this all the time (well, I hear it
sometimes) at PSM nearby.

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

In other words, is it a way of saying "your request is approved"?


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

In article et,
says...


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.


I see it used often enough just to save time and effort. Instead of ATC
asking your intentions, you saying what you want to do, ATC clearing you and
you repeating the clearance - if you're on your fourth time around the
pattern, and there is no traffic conflict, ATC may just say "cleared for the
option" (do what you want to do) and from what I see it is customary to
answer with your intentions ("touch and go four left, seven mike tango")
rather than just leave them guessing.

GF

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in

"Cub Driver" usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in message
...

All right, all right! I hear this all the time (well, I hear it
sometimes) at PSM nearby.

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

In other words, is it a way of saying "your request is approved"?


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

And in conditions where the pilot is not certain that a landing can be
accomplished. (i.e. Strong crosswinds.)

moo

In article ,
says...


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

And in conditions where the pilot is not certain that a landing can be
accomplished. (i.e. Strong crosswinds.)

As is "Touch and Go, Stop and Go, Full Stop or Crash and Burn?"
I don't think so.

GF

"Greg Farris" wrote in
CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training
so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

And in conditions where the pilot is not certain that a landing can be
accomplished. (i.e. Strong crosswinds.)

As is "Touch and Go, Stop and Go, Full Stop or Crash and Burn?"
I don't think so.

Huh?

moo

In article ,
says...


Huh?


"Cleared for the option" is used in pattern work, not in emergencies or
delicate situations. If you are in an emergency, or you have given the
controller any indication that your landing may not be a sure thing, they will
not say "Cleared for the option". They will most likely move other traffic out
of your way, and clear you to the runway of your choice and watch you very
closely, one hand on the phone. Besides that, if you're really worried that
you cannot get it down safely, are you really going to want to land and take
off again?

GF