With the wind?

"Cub Driver" usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in message
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All right, all right! I hear this all the time (well, I hear it
sometimes) at PSM nearby.

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

In other words, is it a way of saying "your request is approved"?


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

In article et,
says...


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.


I see it used often enough just to save time and effort. Instead of ATC
asking your intentions, you saying what you want to do, ATC clearing you and
you repeating the clearance - if you're on your fourth time around the
pattern, and there is no traffic conflict, ATC may just say "cleared for the
option" (do what you want to do) and from what I see it is customary to
answer with your intentions ("touch and go four left, seven mike tango")
rather than just leave them guessing.

GF

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in

"Cub Driver" usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in message
...

All right, all right! I hear this all the time (well, I hear it
sometimes) at PSM nearby.

What does "cleared for the option" mean? Is it any whim on the part of
the pilot in the pattern, like a touch&go?

In other words, is it a way of saying "your request is approved"?


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

And in conditions where the pilot is not certain that a landing can be
accomplished. (i.e. Strong crosswinds.)

moo

In article ,
says...


CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

And in conditions where the pilot is not certain that a landing can be
accomplished. (i.e. Strong crosswinds.)

As is "Touch and Go, Stop and Go, Full Stop or Crash and Burn?"
I don't think so.

GF

"Greg Farris" wrote in
CLEARED FOR THE OPTION- ATC authorization for an aircraft to make a
touch-and-go, low approach, missed approach, stop and go, or full stop
landing at the discretion of the pilot. It is normally used in training
so
that an instructor can evaluate a student's performance under changing
situations.

And in conditions where the pilot is not certain that a landing can be
accomplished. (i.e. Strong crosswinds.)

As is "Touch and Go, Stop and Go, Full Stop or Crash and Burn?"
I don't think so.

Huh?

moo

In article ,
says...


Huh?


"Cleared for the option" is used in pattern work, not in emergencies or
delicate situations. If you are in an emergency, or you have given the
controller any indication that your landing may not be a sure thing, they will
not say "Cleared for the option". They will most likely move other traffic out
of your way, and clear you to the runway of your choice and watch you very
closely, one hand on the phone. Besides that, if you're really worried that
you cannot get it down safely, are you really going to want to land and take
off again?

GF

Greg Farris wrote:
They will most likely move other traffic out
of your way, and clear you to the runway of your choice and watch you very
closely, one hand on the phone.

You will be asked what runway you want and will be cleared to land on
that runway. The phone call will already have been made and the trucks
will be standing by, nobody will be standing by with a hand on the phone.

"Greg Farris" wrote in message news:

"Cleared for the option" is used in pattern work, not in emergencies or
delicate situations. If you are in an emergency, or you have given the
controller any indication that your landing may not be a sure thing, they
will
not say "Cleared for the option". They will most likely move other traffic
out
of your way, and clear you to the runway of your choice and watch you very
closely, one hand on the phone. Besides that, if you're really worried
that
you cannot get it down safely, are you really going to want to land and
take
off again?

Did anyone say "emergency"? Imagine yourself in the foreseeable situation
where you, as a less than seasoned pilot, are attempting a night landing, in
a strong crosswind, on a snow and ice covered runway, other traffic or not,
towered or not. In every case are you sure you will be making a full stop
landing? (If that isn't a rhetorical question for you your godlike
abilities precede you.) When unsure, how do you announce your intentions?
It should be rare, but this has happened to me and most other pilots I know
who fly in "delicate" situations. (Common in places with habitually
marginal conditions.)

moo

Happy Dog wrote:
"Greg Farris" wrote in message news:

"Cleared for the option" is used in pattern work, not in emergencies or
delicate situations. If you are in an emergency, or you have given the
controller any indication that your landing may not be a sure thing, they
will
not say "Cleared for the option". They will most likely move other traffic
out
of your way, and clear you to the runway of your choice and watch you very
closely, one hand on the phone. Besides that, if you're really worried
that
you cannot get it down safely, are you really going to want to land and
take
off again?


Did anyone say "emergency"? Imagine yourself in the foreseeable situation
where you, as a less than seasoned pilot, are attempting a night landing, in
a strong crosswind, on a snow and ice covered runway, other traffic or not,
towered or not. In every case are you sure you will be making a full stop
landing? (If that isn't a rhetorical question for you your godlike
abilities precede you.) When unsure, how do you announce your intentions?
It should be rare, but this has happened to me and most other pilots I know
who fly in "delicate" situations. (Common in places with habitually
marginal conditions.)

It still isn't an "option", it's a full stop landing with the
possibility of a go around. As are all landings.