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June 4th 04, 01:29 AM
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Bob Gardner wrote: There is a definite difference in the airspace protected for a holding pattern vis-a-vis a procedure turn. Dunno why the missed approach hold couldn't be on the same side as the PT, though, since the PT eats up much more airspace. Not in this case. This is one of those little tiny 5-mile PT areas, which they can design into a CAT A only IAP 
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June 4th 04, 02:24 AM
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Interesting. I have an old copy of FAAO 7130.3 and couldn't find a word
about five mile holding patterns, so I was kind of transmitting in the blind (:-). What template is used? Bob Gardner wrote in message ... Bob Gardner wrote: There is a definite difference in the airspace protected for a holding pattern vis-a-vis a procedure turn. Dunno why the missed approach hold couldn't be on the same side as the PT, though, since the PT eats up much more airspace. Not in this case. This is one of those little tiny 5-mile PT areas, which they can design into a CAT A only IAP
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June 4th 04, 05:44 AM
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Bob Gardner wrote: Interesting. I have an old copy of FAAO 7130.3 and couldn't find a word about five mile holding patterns, so I was kind of transmitting in the blind (:-). What template is used? Not a 5-mile hold; rather a 5-mile procedure turn. TERPs 234b: "b. Area. The PT areas are depicted in Figure 5. The normal PT distance is 10 miles. See table 1A. **Decrease this distance to 5 miles where only CAT A aircraft or helicopters are to be operating**, and increase to 15 miles to accommodate operational requirement, or as specified in paragraph 234d. No extension of the PT is permitted without a FAF. When a PT is authorized for use by approach CAT E aircraft, use a 15-mile PT distance."
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June 4th 04, 02:26 AM
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Well, I managed to screw that up...looking at a holding pattern book to find
PT airspace. Sheesh!! Bob wrote in message ... Bob Gardner wrote: There is a definite difference in the airspace protected for a holding pattern vis-a-vis a procedure turn. Dunno why the missed approach hold couldn't be on the same side as the PT, though, since the PT eats up much more airspace. Not in this case. This is one of those little tiny 5-mile PT areas, which they can design into a CAT A only IAP
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