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Old April 14th 06, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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There are no IAP IN Class G, there are many IAP in Class E
that have the airport in Class G. The initial approach,
final approach and missed approach are all in Class E.


Any one who wants can look at my certificates on the FAA web
site, that is my name and I live in Kansas.

As for ATC and instrument approaches, when you depart from
an airport in Class G airspace, with an IFR clearance, you
will be issued a clearance that says, enter controlled
airspace on heading such and such. If you depart VFR you
will be told to maintain VFR until they can coordinate your
entering controlled airspace with IFR separation from other
IFR traffic.

Since you seem to be just a troll with dimples on your butt,
I'll not further explain.


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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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| "Jim Macklin" wrote
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| The FAA will establish controlled airspace as part of
the
| authorization of an IAP. The FAA must have control of
| airspace in order to issue a clearance, Class G does not
| meet that requirement.
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| How do you explain all those IAPs in Class G airspace?
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| We seem to have a problem, my experience is just what
I've
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| 8,000 hours;FAR 141 former chief flight instructor, FAR
135
| Director of Operations, single-pilot IFR in all models
King
| Air 90 ,200 and 300 and other ASEL/AMEL Beech aircraft.
| Gold Seal CFI ASMEI. No violations.
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| The problem is your knowledge level is far less than what
would be expected
| of someone with the experience you claim. But that's not
my problem.
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| What do you have?
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| Dimples on my butt.
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| What do you think I'm fibbing about?
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| I think you're fibbing about your experience.
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Old April 14th 06, 03:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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There are no IAP IN Class G, there are many IAP in Class E
that have the airport in Class G. The initial approach,
final approach and missed approach are all in Class E.


You're wrong. The IAP is also in Class G airapace at those airports. Look
at the ILS RWY 17 approach at MTW as an example. Class E airspace begins at
700 AGL, you'd enter Class G airspace about 1.6 miles prior to the MAP on
final approach and you'd obviously have to climb through 500' of Class G
airspace on the missed approach procedure. There are many approaches like
this.

http://map.aeroplanner.com/mapping/c...yp=APT&txt=mtw

http://map.aeroplanner.com/plates/Fa...s/05281I17.PDF

How is it that someone with the ratings and experience you claim to possess
is so unfamiliar with this situation?



Any one who wants can look at my certificates on the FAA web
site, that is my name and I live in Kansas.


We don't know that you're posting under your real name.



As for ATC and instrument approaches, when you depart from
an airport in Class G airspace, with an IFR clearance, you
will be issued a clearance that says, enter controlled
airspace on heading such and such.


Not necessarily. You may simply be cleared as filed.



If you depart VFR you
will be told to maintain VFR until they can coordinate your
entering controlled airspace with IFR separation from other
IFR traffic.


Only if there is conflicting IFR traffic.



Since you seem to be just a troll with dimples on your butt,
I'll not further explain.


Other than the inconsistency between your knowledge level and claimed
experience, there is nothing for you to explain. These discussions are an
opportunity to for you to learn, I suggest you take advantage of them.


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Old April 14th 06, 04:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Stephen P. McNicoll said:
These discussions are an
opportunity to for you to learn, I suggest you take advantage of them.


I'm just curious - have you ever learned from these discussions?
(except about the unbelievable ineptitude of others?)

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Old April 14th 06, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Jose" wrote in message
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I'm just curious - have you ever learned from these discussions?


Probably. I engage in a lot of discussions here so chances are I've learned
something I hadn't known before through them but I can't recall any specific
example off the top of my head.


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Old April 14th 06, 04:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"Jose" wrote in message
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I'm just curious - have you ever learned from these discussions?



Probably. I engage in a lot of discussions here so chances are I've learned
something I hadn't known before through them but I can't recall any specific
example off the top of my head.


I have the same problem. I like to think I am perfect but I carry the
baggage of knowing I was wrong one time in my life; that was the time I
thought I was wrong when actually I was right.
 




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