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Old April 17th 06, 03:24 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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interesting to know which plane the last 3 pictures are of?
definitely not the same as the first that could be the U-2
much different wing profile
BT

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I had made passing mention recently about spotting a U2 aircraft
cruising around southern California. Well, this past week I
managed to get some good photographs of it and have put up a
webpage about it. Turned out to be a NASA ER-2.

http://www.skywise711.com/misc/ER2/ER2.html

Brian
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Old April 17th 06, 03:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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interesting to know which plane the last 3 pictures are of?
definitely not the same as the first that could be the U-2
much different wing profile
BT


The later pictures are of a B-57, and I'm pretty sure it is a B-57F. The
B-57D looks similar, but I *think* all of them have been retired.

These aircraft are B-57's in nomenclature only. They share a similar
planform with non-recon B-57's, but the airframe, engines, and wings are far
different than the rest of the B-57 family.

I sat in on a forum at Oshkosh once upon a time where a B-57F driver told
some of his tales. The short version was that he saw some interesting
sights from as high as 82,000'.. The airplane can be configured two ways.
Typically the airplane has two engines. It is flown in that configuration
to maximize range and endurance. In addition, two pod mounted engines can
be bolted on below the wings if the mission's focus requires absolute
maximum altitude.

NASA and the CIA fly (or flew) these aircraft.

KB


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Old April 17th 06, 04:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
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interesting to know which plane the last 3 pictures are of?
definitely not the same as the first that could be the U-2
much different wing profile
BT


The later pictures are of a B-57, and I'm pretty sure it is a B-57F. The
B-57D looks similar, but I *think* all of them have been retired.


All of the images on my page are of the same aircraft taken
the same day. Some of them were taken with the plane at a
distance so the perspective is much different than looking
straight up at its belly.

Take a look at this NASA webpage, which has a picture of an
ER-2. It matches what I observed.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/r...R-2/index.html

The Canberra's wings are much more triangular.

Plus, my photogrammatic analysis puts the plane at around 70,000
feet.

Brian
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Old April 18th 06, 12:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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hmmm.... maybe so.. thanx
BT

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"Kyle Boatright" wrote in
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"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:j%C0g.7170$Qz.1048@fed1read11...
interesting to know which plane the last 3 pictures are of?
definitely not the same as the first that could be the U-2
much different wing profile
BT


The later pictures are of a B-57, and I'm pretty sure it is a B-57F. The
B-57D looks similar, but I *think* all of them have been retired.


All of the images on my page are of the same aircraft taken
the same day. Some of them were taken with the plane at a
distance so the perspective is much different than looking
straight up at its belly.

Take a look at this NASA webpage, which has a picture of an
ER-2. It matches what I observed.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/r...R-2/index.html

The Canberra's wings are much more triangular.

Plus, my photogrammatic analysis puts the plane at around 70,000
feet.

Brian
--
http://www.skywise711.com - Lasers, Seismology, Astronomy, Skepticism
Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
Quake "predictions": http://www.skywise711.com/quakes/EQDB/index.html
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Old April 18th 06, 03:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"BTIZ" wrote in news:FZV0g.7331$Qz.3272
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hmmm.... maybe so.. thanx
BT


Just so you know, BT, I have determined that the plane is in fact
a WB-57. My original doubt was due not knowing of the planes existence,
and that the images and drawings on the Wikipedia source that I
checked do not show the longer wingspan version.

But, upon seeing images of the plane on NASA's webpage about the
WB-57 program, I had to change my mind. BTW, I have placed an image
from the NASA website at the end of my page for comparison.

Brian
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Old April 18th 06, 03:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Skywise" wrote

But, upon seeing images of the plane on NASA's webpage about the
WB-57 program, I had to change my mind. BTW, I have placed an image
from the NASA website at the end of my page for comparison.


If you have a place for me to send them, I have a couple pictures taken at
OSH a few years back. They might be interesting, because they have people
walking around looking at them, for a feeling of scale.
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Old April 18th 06, 07:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Morgans" wrote in news:qvY0g.273$wh.32
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"Skywise" wrote

But, upon seeing images of the plane on NASA's webpage about the
WB-57 program, I had to change my mind. BTW, I have placed an image
from the NASA website at the end of my page for comparison.


If you have a place for me to send them, I have a couple pictures taken at
OSH a few years back. They might be interesting, because they have people
walking around looking at them, for a feeling of scale.


I'd be glad to put them in with my photos.

My email address is on my website. Or, if you want to play break
the code..... "skywise" at (the name of my website).

Let me know how you want them credited and include any descriptions
you may have.

In all my years of interest in aviation I'm embarrassed that I
never knew of this plane. Sheesh....

Brian
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Seismic FAQ: http://www.skywise711.com/SeismicFAQ/SeismicFAQ.html
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