Third Class to Sport Pilot

Jose wrote in
om:

Technically, I don't think you are allowed to fly sport pilot if you
know you have a condition that would disqualify you from having a
third class medical.

My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which
prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a
condition which would nix a class III.

Jose

That understanding is incorrect... the part of the fars that mention
medical exams, and certain medical conditions SPECIFIALCALLY exclude glider
and sport pilots.

If you need it, I can quote it just no time to dig it up at the moment.

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My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which
prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a
condition which would nix a class III.

That understanding is incorrect... the part of the fars that mention
medical exams, and certain medical conditions SPECIFIALCALLY exclude glider
and sport pilots.

I don't see how that contradicts. Even though a SP is excluded from
having to meet specific medical requirements, they are not excluded from
having to meet =any= requriements. They are still prohibited from
flying when they are unfit to fly, as determined by the pilot himself or
herself. The pilot can have a condition which would nix a class III,
but still be safe to fly. This is why I disagree with:

Technically, I don't think you are allowed to fly sport pilot if you
know you have a condition that would disqualify you from having a
third class medical.

Jose
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Jose wrote in
t:

My understanding is that you can't fly if you have a condition which
prevents you from flying safely - this is not the same as having a
condition which would nix a class III.

That understanding is incorrect... the part of the fars that mention
medical exams, and certain medical conditions SPECIFIALCALLY exclude
glider and sport pilots.

I don't see how that contradicts. Even though a SP is excluded from
having to meet specific medical requirements, they are not excluded
from having to meet =any= requriements. They are still prohibited
from flying when they are unfit to fly, as determined by the pilot
himself or herself. The pilot can have a condition which would nix a
class III, but still be safe to fly. This is why I disagree with:


Jose

Yup, your right, re-reading your first post, you were agreeing with
me.... red face...

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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 10:30:54 GMT, "Dick" wrote:

What has anyone actually experienced in making the change from a third class
medical to the Sport Pilots "driver" license?

My insurance company has said "no problem unless the policy specifically
states a third class medical is needed" (it doesn't).

I've decided to do this when my current medical expires in December.
The insurance representative told me not to worry about the fact that
there's no check box on the application: "You're still a private
pilot, but you'll be flying under Sport Pilot rules."

Just to be on the safe side, I will write beside it that I am using
Sport Pilot privileges.



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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 14:45:49 GMT, ET wrote:

Other than checking with your insurance company, there is no
"transition" to make.... The last valid day of your medical you are a
private pilot, the next day you may fly using Sport Pilot Privileges...
(and limitations).

When this first applied, there was a squib in AOPA Pilot about a guy
in California who has a Special Issuance medical. It's good for one
year, and the tests he submits are processed and the medical issued by
the FAA in six months. He's not allowed to submit the paperback until
four months before he wants to renew, so every year there's two months
he can't fly. (I am quoting these times from memory; they may be off.)

So this year he flew his Piper Cub on Sport Pilot privileges during
the two-month hiatus, firing up his AT-6 Texan only after the medical
came through from the FAA.



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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:37:00 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote:

no here lies another question... if you "were" a PP, and now flying under
SP, you were at one time qualified to fly into airports that are now
limited.. and the other SP restrictions.. can you still do that without the
SP log book endorsements needed by an SP?

I think the answer is yes, but it might be worthwhile getting a
specific endorsement for controlled airspace. (I assume that private
pilots don't get a specific sign-off for ATC? If they do, then that
sign-off ought to carry over to their life as a Sport Pilot.)




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Cub Driver usenet AT danford DOT net wrote in
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 18:37:00 -0700, "BTIZ"
wrote:

no here lies another question... if you "were" a PP, and now flying
under SP, you were at one time qualified to fly into airports that are
now limited.. and the other SP restrictions.. can you still do that
without the SP log book endorsements needed by an SP?

I think the answer is yes, but it might be worthwhile getting a
specific endorsement for controlled airspace. (I assume that private
pilots don't get a specific sign-off for ATC? If they do, then that
sign-off ought to carry over to their life as a Sport Pilot.)




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Not needed, the regs specifically address this issue. it says, in
effect, a private pilot acting under sport pilot has already had the
airspace training needed, therefore does not require the endorsement
(you really already have the logged instruction time in your logbook as
a student)

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