IAP without inbound course?

Jose wrote:
There is only one such IAP in the country (probably the world). If,
however, you mean most pilots don't know how to fly DME ARC initial
approach segments, then their training is seriously lacking.


Then count me in. I was never taught the procedure; I asked here some
time ago and practiced it on my own. However, my training is not
"seriously lacking". The DME arcs were not around much (DME was not in
the aircraft either) when I took my training. I've kept up, but one
cannot keep up with what one does not know to keep up with, and some of
those things are obscure "gotchas".

Jose
The procedure for flying DME ARCs was in the old instrument flying
handbook, both with and without an RMI.

I was never taught the procedure, either, when I obtained my instrument
rating. But, as a professional CFI-I, I became proficient in their use
and how to teach them as soon as it became apparent (circa late 1960s)
that they better be part of the proficient instrument pilot's toolkit.

The track on the arc is +- 1 NM, it can be done closer.
I've flown them in actual, no radar approach control used
the arc as a means to get required sep.


If you lead the initial turn about 1 mile, you should roll
out pretty close.

Like a lot of IFR training, procedures that are taught may
never be used in real life, such as time/distance to station
by bearing change.



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James H. Macklin
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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| Jose wrote:
| There is only one such IAP in the country (probably the
world). If,
| however, you mean most pilots don't know how to fly DME
ARC initial
| approach segments, then their training is seriously
lacking.
|
|
| Then count me in. I was never taught the procedure; I
asked here some
| time ago and practiced it on my own. However, my
training is not
| "seriously lacking". The DME arcs were not around much
(DME was not in
| the aircraft either) when I took my training. I've kept
up, but one
| cannot keep up with what one does not know to keep up
with, and some of
| those things are obscure "gotchas".
|
| Jose
| The procedure for flying DME ARCs was in the old
instrument flying
| handbook, both with and without an RMI.
|
| I was never taught the procedure, either, when I obtained
my instrument
| rating. But, as a professional CFI-I, I became proficient
in their use
| and how to teach them as soon as it became apparent (circa
late 1960s)
| that they better be part of the proficient instrument
pilot's toolkit.