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On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:53:00 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote:

"Jay Honeck" wrote:
In case you haven't noticed, America doesn't conquer people. We come
in, save your ass, and go home.

If only that were true during all of our history, rather than the two World
Wars. Because Native Americans may tend to disagree with both your
statements:

Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing
as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did
although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from
them by armed force.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Wars

And the U.S. took the area encompassing California and New Mexico as a
result of the Mexican-American war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_American_War

Likewise, Puerto Rico and the Philipines were territorial conquests
resulting from the Spanish-American war in which the U.S. "didn't go home":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish-American_War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico

The U.S. did its best to not "go home" which was evident during the
Philipine-American war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philipine-American_War

Lastly, the War of 1812 involved a failed attempt by the U.S. to take
Canada:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasio...ada_%281812%29

In article ,
Roger wrote:

Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing
as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did
although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from
them by armed force.

But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
Roger wrote:

Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing
as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did
although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from
them by armed force.

But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

Which part of the land did you take away from yourself?

Hmmm...MPD?


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

Bob Noel writes:

In article ,
Roger wrote:

Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing
as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did
although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from
them by armed force.

But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

Quite possibly; or at least from other tribes. I know the Lakota were
relative newcomers in this part of the country when we came along and
displaced them.
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In article , David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

Quite possibly; or at least from other tribes. I know the Lakota were
relative newcomers in this part of the country when we came along and
displaced them.

well, actually, no. Not one person alive today took land belonging
to any "native american" alive today.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel wrote:
But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

Quite possibly; or at least from other tribes. I know the Lakota were
relative newcomers in this part of the country when we came along and
displaced them.

well, actually, no. Not one person alive today took land belonging
to any "native american" alive today.

Except for various energy concerns. (Read up on Peabody Coal
to start.) Oh, and if Indians take like one fish for every
hundred a major fishing company takes and the fish population
starts to decline, guess who gets the blame? And then there
were the forced sterilizations in the 70s, Norplant and
Depo-Provera experiments in the 80s, toxic waste dumps from
the 50s to present day . . . Shall I go on?

Oh, and might I add, if you have a problem with the government
snatching up Indian lands and leasing it to huge corporations
for toxic waste dumps without the locals' consent, you're a
communist.

Oh, and might I add, if you have a problem with the government
snatching up Indian lands and leasing it to huge corporations
for toxic waste dumps without the locals' consent, you're a
communist.

Do you have any examples of this happening?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Oh, and might I add, if you have a problem with the government
snatching up Indian lands and leasing it to huge corporations
for toxic waste dumps without the locals' consent, you're a
communist.

Do you have any examples of this happening?

You must not remember the 70s very well . . .

"David Dyer-Bennet" wrote in message
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Bob Noel writes:

In article ,
Roger wrote:

Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing
as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did
although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from
them by armed force.

But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

Quite possibly; or at least from other tribes. I know the Lakota were
relative newcomers in this part of the country when we came along and
displaced them.

Who did they (the Lakota) displace?

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 05:30:14 -0400, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
Roger wrote:

Although that is the politically correct term there is no such thing
as Native Americans. Those called that merely got here before we did
although that does nothing to the fact that we took the land away from
them by armed force.

But who is this "we"? I'm part Sioux. Does this mean I took land away
from myself?

Hmmmm... I guess that means you are partly guilty.

Did you ever see the episode in the Original Star Trek (OST) where the
two black and white aliens are fighting?

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com