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Old April 27th 06, 08:46 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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No, it _might_ not have happened. We will never know, won't we.


If you think the French would have been able to drive the Germans out
of France w/o the U.S. you have a very odd understanding of history.


The US would never have been able to drive the Germans out of France without
French help.


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Old April 27th 06, 11:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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In article ,
"Juan Jimenez" wrote:

If you think the French would have been able to drive the Germans out
of France w/o the U.S. you have a very odd understanding of history.


The US would never have been able to drive the Germans out of France without
French help.


ROTFLMAO

yet you think the french could have driven the Germans out without US help?

You need to learn the difference between "necessary" and "useful"

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Old May 1st 06, 03:33 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Juan Jimenez" wrote:

If you think the French would have been able to drive the Germans out
of France w/o the U.S. you have a very odd understanding of history.


The US would never have been able to drive the Germans out of France
without
French help.


ROTFLMAO

yet you think the french could have driven the Germans out without US
help?


No, what I think is that you need to take remedial reading lessons.

Do you know the meaning of the word "allies"?


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Old May 1st 06, 07:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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In article ,
"Juan Jimenez" wrote:

yet you think the french could have driven the Germans out without US
help?


No


Then why did you claim that it might have happened without US help?


Do you know the meaning of the word "allies"?


Do _you_ know the difference between "necessary" and "useful"?

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Old May 1st 06, 06:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Juan Jimenez" wrote:

yet you think the french could have driven the Germans out without US
help?


No


Then why did you claim that it might have happened without US help?


Because you can't prove otherwise. I can, however, prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, from historical documentation, that without the help of the French
and particularly the help of the French resistance, not only would the US
not been able to get the Germans out of France, D-Day would have been a
disastrous massacre of biblical proportions.

That is why they were called ALLIES, and not "saviours".

Of course, you could also extend your argument to show that were it not for
the millions of russians, french, british, poles, czechs, danes, aussies and
other assorted nationalities, everyone from San Diego to Rhode Island would
be speaking German today, or perhaps Japanese....

Do you know the meaning of the word "allies"?


Do _you_ know the difference between "necessary" and "useful"?


Sure, this is an example that portion of revisionist history that appears to
be "necessary" to demonstrate how arrogantly ignorant some people can be.
This is "useful" precisely because it helps demonstrate the absurdity of
arrogant revisionist arguments such as the one that the only way for France
to be rid of the invading Germans was for the US to kick them out, and
without any help from the French at that.

If you need that in Spanish, let me know. g

BTW, is this almighty military of yours STILL looking for that one, single,
solitary six foot arab permanently tied to a dialysis machine? And does that
moron in the White House still claim "mission accomplished"?


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Old May 1st 06, 07:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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I can, however, prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, from historical documentation, that without the help of the French
and particularly the help of the French resistance, not only would the US
not been able to get the Germans out of France, D-Day would have been a
disastrous massacre of biblical proportions.


I'll take you up on that. Start proving....

-Robert

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Old May 2nd 06, 12:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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In article .com,
"Robert M. Gary" wrote:

I can, however, prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, from historical documentation, that without the help of the French
and particularly the help of the French resistance, not only would the US
not been able to get the Germans out of France, D-Day would have been a
disastrous massacre of biblical proportions.


I'll take you up on that. Start proving....


don't hold your breath...

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Old May 2nd 06, 09:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Very simple. Dwight D. Eisenhower said so in unequivocal terms, when among
other things he stated that the French Resistance was the equivalent of ten
divisions of regular Army troops. Without the French resistance, virtually
all of the preparatory work prior to D-Day would have been impossible, and
the morale of the German troops would have been much, much higher.

"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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I can, however, prove beyond a shadow of
a doubt, from historical documentation, that without the help of the
French
and particularly the help of the French resistance, not only would the US
not been able to get the Germans out of France, D-Day would have been a
disastrous massacre of biblical proportions.


I'll take you up on that. Start proving....

-Robert



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Old May 1st 06, 06:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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yet you think the french could have driven the Germans out without US help?
You need to learn the difference between "necessary" and "useful"



"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me." --- General George S. Patton

-Robert

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Old May 1st 06, 06:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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yet you think the french could have driven the Germans out without US
help?
You need to learn the difference between "necessary" and "useful"



"I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one
behind me." --- General George S. Patton

-Robert


"The work of the Resistance was the work of 15 divisions." --- Gen Dwight D.
Eisenhower (Gen. Patton's Boss.)


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