Multi engine plane for PPL or Pilot Training

BTIZ wrote:


It's not dangerous... if that is how you are trained.. that is all you know.
Lets just think about all those military pilots that the first aircraft they
ever flew was a twin JET, T-37.

Are you sure the T37 was a first airplane?

I had a retired Air Force school teacher that trained in T37's in the
70's, but I seem to remember him flying something before it, maybe a T34?

... limited to asymmetric thrust singles.

That's all singles..."Right Rudder!!!"

Sure you can. I trained a woman in a Beech Baron from zero time to her
PPL back in the 60's. Her husband had chartered me a couple times and
one day asked if I could teach his wife to fly the Baron. I told him
probably if she had a normal aptitude. So, he bought her one as a
surprise birthday present and hired me to train her. She did fine and
he still chartered me from time to time...in her airplane of course!!!
I trained a number of Japanese pilots in Piper Aztecs in the late 60's
and they were all very low time or zero when they started. Not a big
deal if you can afford it.

Same thing happens if he goes the SE route.. he can't be PIC in a twin without another check ride. So what's your point?

Just that you'd think someone who got their PPL in a twin wouldn't need
a checkride to have SE PIC privileges. Obviously there's more involved
in learning to fly a twin so that you'd think the SE authorization
would be automatic.

... limited to asymmetric thrust singles.

That's all singles..."Right Rudder!!!"

Asymmetric thrust is a multi engine term, are you referring to the left
turning tendency in singles?

It was a joke.

It was a joke.

I realize that. I should've directed my question to Jose.

I realize that. I should've directed my question to Jose.

It was a joke. Yes, with one engine out in a twin, you have a single
engine plane, and that engine is likely to be off the centerline. So in
keeping with the "limited to centerline thrust" rating you can get in
the eggbeater, a multi-only rating would allow you to fly single engine
airplanes only if the thrust were off the centerline.

Yes, I know you can have two engines out in a trimotor and have
centerline thrust - we can overanalyze it.

Jose
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Barry... some of them in the 70s and early 80s may have done through "Hondo"
and it was in C-182s.. just to get up to solo.. I do not remember if they
had to solo or not.

Some of the older pilots.. before the advent of Jet trainers may have seen
the T-34.

The Navy was using the T-34C a few years ago, I'm not sure if they still
are.

Currently new AF Pilot "Trainees" get their FAA Pvt Pilot certificate while
a 2Lt, paid for at local flight schools by Uncle before reporting to AF
Pilot Training. If they cannot complete in set calendar time or flight time,
they do not get to go to AF Pilot. That program will phase out soon as the
AF goes back to a "Hondo" like program. Civil contract instructors. "Hondo"
refers to the town and airfield west of San Antonio Texas that provided the
training (filter service) to pilot candidates.

BT


"B A R R Y" wrote in message
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BTIZ wrote:


It's not dangerous... if that is how you are trained.. that is all you
know.
Lets just think about all those military pilots that the first aircraft
they ever flew was a twin JET, T-37.

Are you sure the T37 was a first airplane?

I had a retired Air Force school teacher that trained in T37's in the
70's, but I seem to remember him flying something before it, maybe a T34?

"Kingfish" wrote in message
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Same thing happens if he goes the SE route.. he can't be PIC in a twin
without another check ride. So what's your point?

Just that you'd think someone who got their PPL in a twin wouldn't need
a checkride to have SE PIC privileges. Obviously there's more involved
in learning to fly a twin so that you'd think the SE authorization
would be automatic.

So one would think.. but that guy getting training in a twin has different
engine out procedures than the SE guy. Hate to have the engine start
coughing and the first thing he does is "cage" a perfectly good engine with
no "second" engine to carry him home. Also some "Twins" don't have to worry
about things like P-factor
BT