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Jon Kraus wrote:
One thing that is for sure is that airline passengers will NEVER
let some ragheads take over a plane ever again....

Jon, I've never been a Muslim nor a Sikh. I've been a Baptist, a
Mormon and a Buddhist. You calling terrorists "ragheads" offended
me and probably a lot of others.

Back in the late 80's, I had two roommates, one was an Iraqi and the
other was an Iranian. They had friends visiting all the time and
you'd be surprised how many of them were blond-headed and blue-eyed
and speaking fluently both in English and in their native language. Oh
yes, they were clean cut and shaven.

When you are only thinking that your enemies are "ragheads", you
have already missed 30-40% of your potential threat. Yeah, and don't
forget people like Timothy McVeigh.

Another thing, Jon, if I was to come out the way you often do, I would
not advertise my tail number and where I park my plane. Just a
thought.

The Monk

Did I hit a nerve Mr. Monk? I see from your recent posts that you
communicate with the Arabs too.. Now it all makes sense... Get over it
dude... I could care less if you are offended... This is USENET and I
can give whatever opinion I like. If you don't like my rants then plonk
me in your killfile... I care not... Your empty threats scare me none...
Touch my plane and I'll kill you (Frances from the movie Stripes)... Now
get back in your rental 152 and get the hell out of here...

Below is my real name:
Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ


Flyingmonk wrote:
Jon Kraus wrote:

One thing that is for sure is that airline passengers will NEVER
let some ragheads take over a plane ever again....


Jon, I've never been a Muslim nor a Sikh. I've been a Baptist, a
Mormon and a Buddhist. You calling terrorists "ragheads" offended
me and probably a lot of others.

Back in the late 80's, I had two roommates, one was an Iraqi and the
other was an Iranian. They had friends visiting all the time and
you'd be surprised how many of them were blond-headed and blue-eyed
and speaking fluently both in English and in their native language. Oh
yes, they were clean cut and shaven.

When you are only thinking that your enemies are "ragheads", you
have already missed 30-40% of your potential threat. Yeah, and don't
forget people like Timothy McVeigh.

Another thing, Jon, if I was to come out the way you often do, I would
not advertise my tail number and where I park my plane. Just a
thought.

The Monk

Jon Kraus wrote:
This is USENET and I can give whatever opinion I like.

This is Usenet (not USENET - the word is not an acronym for anything and
shouldn't be in all caps) and if you can't keep your testosterone levels
within manageable range when people respond with their opinions, then you
may want to consider other less stressful pursuits like knitting.

Also, you wrote earlier:

One thing that is for sure is that airline passengers will NEVER
let some ragheads take over a plane ever again....

Sikhs wear head scarves, but they have nothing to do with Islam or Islamic
extremists. Arabs wear keffiyeh, but not all Arabs are Islamic extremists
or even Muslim. And not all Islamic extremists or terrorists are Arab.

Everyone has a right to expressing opinions founded on ignorance, and you
have exercised that right.

My advice is next time the opportunity occurs, try saying "terrorist" or
"religious extremist" rather than "raghead".

Jim Logajan wrote:

Everyone has a right to expressing opinions founded on ignorance, and you
have exercised that right.

My advice is next time the opportunity occurs, try saying "terrorist" or
"religious extremist" rather than "raghead".

That is all I was trying to say. Thank you for being able to express
it better than I did.

The Monk

I see USENET and Usenet used interchangeably all over the web... I never
said it was an acronym... I don't know anything about knitting so you
might have to help me out on that one... Jeeze, you appear to be very
critical and then know about knitting too... You sure your not a woman
wrapped up in a mans body? :-) Thanks for your adivse though.. Peace
out...

Jon


Jim Logajan wrote:
Jon Kraus wrote:

This is USENET and I can give whatever opinion I like.


This is Usenet (not USENET - the word is not an acronym for anything and
shouldn't be in all caps) and if you can't keep your testosterone levels
within manageable range when people respond with their opinions, then you
may want to consider other less stressful pursuits like knitting.

Also, you wrote earlier:


One thing that is for sure is that airline passengers will NEVER
let some ragheads take over a plane ever again....


Sikhs wear head scarves, but they have nothing to do with Islam or Islamic
extremists. Arabs wear keffiyeh, but not all Arabs are Islamic extremists
or even Muslim. And not all Islamic extremists or terrorists are Arab.

Everyone has a right to expressing opinions founded on ignorance, and you
have exercised that right.

My advice is next time the opportunity occurs, try saying "terrorist" or
"religious extremist" rather than "raghead".

Jon Kraus wrote:
Did I hit a nerve Mr. Monk? I see from your recent posts that you
communicate with the Arabs too.. Now it all makes sense... Get over it
dude... I could care less if you are offended... This is USENET and I
can give whatever opinion I like. If you don't like my rants then plonk
me in your killfile... I care not... Your empty threats scare me none...
Touch my plane and I'll kill you (Frances from the movie Stripes)... Now
get back in your rental 152 and get the hell out of here...

Below is my real name:
Jon Kraus
'79 Mooney 201
4443H @ TYQ


Flyingmonk wrote:
Jon Kraus wrote:

One thing that is for sure is that airline passengers will NEVER
let some ragheads take over a plane ever again....


Jon, I've never been a Muslim nor a Sikh. I've been a Baptist, a
Mormon and a Buddhist. You calling terrorists "ragheads" offended
me and probably a lot of others.

Back in the late 80's, I had two roommates, one was an Iraqi and the
other was an Iranian. They had friends visiting all the time and
you'd be surprised how many of them were blond-headed and blue-eyed
and speaking fluently both in English and in their native language. Oh
yes, they were clean cut and shaven.

When you are only thinking that your enemies are "ragheads", you
have already missed 30-40% of your potential threat. Yeah, and don't
forget people like Timothy McVeigh.

Another thing, Jon, if I was to come out the way you often do, I would
not advertise my tail number and where I park my plane. Just a
thought.

The Monk


Yes you did touch a nerve Jon. You assuming that people who wear cloth
on their heads are all terrorists. You missed the point that I was
trying to tell you that I know of many arabs that look nothing like
arabs. I tried to tell you that not all your enemies will wear a
cloths on their heads to tell you that they are your enemies.

You assuming that all people that wear cloths on their heads are
terrorist is just the same as the terrorists assuming that all
Westerners are what they think we are.

I also tried to tell you that this is a www (WORLD wide web) that when
you express your opinion like that and have your name and tail number
and where you parked your plane was a bad idea and you took that as a
threat. Jon I don't threat.

I think I touch a nerve with you huh? Well all I can say is that you
are quick on the draw Jon.

The Monk

In article .com,
"Flyingmonk" wrote:

You assuming that all people that wear cloths on their heads are
terrorist is just the same as the terrorists assuming that all
Westerners are what they think we are.

"just the same"? hardly.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

Bob Noel wrote:
In article .com,
"Flyingmonk" wrote:

You assuming that all people that wear cloths on their heads are
terrorist is just the same as the terrorists assuming that all
Westerners are what they think we are.

"just the same"? hardly.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Oh, he's black, he must be a mugger or a drug dealer or just plain up
to no good."
"Oh he's asian, he must not be able to play basketball."
"Oh he's wearing cloth on his head and he's looks Arabic, he must be a
terroist."
"Oh he's Polish, he must be stupid."
"Oh he's Irish, he must be a perpetual drunk."

Like the qoutes above, Jon's statement was a general
assumption/sterotypical. His inability to separate friends from foes
is the same as the terrorists' inability to separate friends from foes.
It is/was this 'shortcoming' that gets more and more of our people
targeted and killed. It is/was this 'shortcoming' that makes more and
enemies for us around the world. It is/was this 'shortcoming' that
makes us 'hate' our enemies and our enemies hate us more and more. It
is "shoot them all, let God sort them out" attitude that perpetuates
hatrade.

The Monk

In article .com,
"Flyingmonk" wrote:

Like the qoutes above, Jon's statement was a general
assumption/sterotypical.

true.

His inability to separate friends from foes
is the same as the terrorists' inability to separate friends from foes.

possibly.

It is/was this 'shortcoming' that gets more and more of our people
targeted and killed.

wrong.

The terrorist and his perversion of a religion (to be kind about it)
is what make him hate us. What we do doesn't matter.

To equate Jon's statement with the terrorist hatred shows a huge
gross misunderstanding of the terrorist.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

"Flyingmonk" wrote in message
oups.com...
Jon Kraus wrote:
One thing that is for sure is that airline passengers will NEVER
let some ragheads take over a plane ever again....

Jon, I've never been a Muslim nor a Sikh. I've been a Baptist, a
Mormon and a Buddhist. You calling terrorists "ragheads" offended
me and probably a lot of others.

Yup. Sadly but predictably, many people like Jon exploit 9/11 as an excuse
to indulge in ethnic hatred.

--Gary