MoGas Tips, Tricks, Concerns, How To

Jay Honeck wrote:
Hmmm. Let's see. Shall I believe the guy who runs a multi-million
dollar aircraft exhaust system business (and has no incentive to lie to
me), or shall I believe Usenet?

Teledyne Continental and (I think) Lycoming have both gone on record
to say that mogas is damaging to their engines. They are certainly
multi-millon dollar aircraft engine companies and have have no
incentive to lie to you.

Yet you, Jay, are an ardent user of mogas. Who do believe: the engine
companies or Usenet?

I'd ask your exhaust system rebuilder to show you the data. I doubt
he really has any and that he is perpetrating yet another aviation
old wives tale. If he does actually have valid data, I'd wager that
a different conclusion could be drawn from it.

--
Frank Stutzman (who uses both mogas AND LOP operations)
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

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Jay Honeck wrote:
Hmmm. Let's see. Shall I believe the guy who runs a multi-million
dollar aircraft exhaust system business (and has no incentive to lie to
me), or shall I believe Usenet?
"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message

Teledyne Continental and (I think) Lycoming have both gone on record
to say that mogas is damaging to their engines. They are certainly
multi-millon dollar aircraft engine companies and have have no
incentive to lie to you.

They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that recommend
against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC system).

Allen

Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that recommend
against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their FADEC.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their FADEC.

That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they do.

Allen

Allen wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their FADEC.


That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they do.

Which isn't their argument now. They flat out say it isn't good for the
engine period.

Switching to courtroom mode

"So, Teledyne Director Of Engineering, would you please tell the court why
you recommended exceessive leaning and poor quality automobile fuel when we
have sworn testimony that it was this lethal combination that caused this
poor widow and her children to lose a husband and father?"

It sure as hell wasn't for engineering reasons that they made these
pronouncements.

mode off

Jim



Teledyne Continental and (I think) Lycoming have both gone on record
to say that mogas is damaging to their engines. They are certainly
multi-millon dollar aircraft engine companies and have have no
incentive to lie to you.

They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC system).

Allen

"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Hmmm. Let's see. Shall I believe the guy who runs a multi-million
dollar aircraft exhaust system business (and has no incentive to lie to
me), or shall I believe Usenet?

Teledyne Continental and (I think) Lycoming have both gone on record
to say that mogas is damaging to their engines. They are certainly
multi-millon dollar aircraft engine companies and have have no
incentive to lie to you.

Yet you, Jay, are an ardent user of mogas. Who do believe: the engine
companies or Usenet?

Just what damage is caused by mogas? I don't believe either company has
ever provided one iota of evidence. It is more the lawyers talking than
anyone that actually knows an engine from a rock.


I'd ask your exhaust system rebuilder to show you the data. I doubt
he really has any and that he is perpetrating yet another aviation
old wives tale. If he does actually have valid data, I'd wager that
a different conclusion could be drawn from it.

--
Frank Stutzman (who uses both mogas AND LOP operations)
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
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"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Hmmm. Let's see. Shall I believe the guy who runs a multi-million
dollar aircraft exhaust system business (and has no incentive to lie to
me), or shall I believe Usenet?

Teledyne Continental and (I think) Lycoming have both gone on record
to say that mogas is damaging to their engines. They are certainly
multi-millon dollar aircraft engine companies and have have no
incentive to lie to you.

Yet you, Jay, are an ardent user of mogas. Who do believe: the engine
companies or Usenet?

Just what damage is caused by mogas?

The same problem that some cars had; hose, gaskets, etc., something like
that?

I don't believe either company has ever provided one iota of evidence. It
is more the lawyers talking than anyone that actually knows an engine from
a rock.

Well, that last is ALL IMPORTANT given out litigious society.

If you'd just get the operation, you and Mary wouldn't have to USE
conundrums.

Jim



Golly, what a conundrum...