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"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their FADEC.

That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they do.

Allen

Allen wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their FADEC.


That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they do.

Which isn't their argument now. They flat out say it isn't good for the
engine period.

"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their FADEC.


That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they do.

Which isn't their argument now. They flat out say it isn't good for the
engine period.

That is correct, because you can't control the fuel flow to all cylinders
precisely enough. The FADEC system will not allow the engine to run in an
condition that will cause damage. If a CHT is too high or EGT too high
guess what happens. It INCREASES the fuel flow to that one cylinder to
bring it down. It can also retard the ignition on that one cylinder only to
correct the condition. It never LEANS further to cool cylinders or EGT
temps.

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"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their
FADEC.


That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they
do.

Which isn't their argument now. They flat out say it isn't good for the
engine period.

That is correct, because you can't control the fuel flow to all cylinders
precisely enough.

Well, so lets put in $8000 for a FADEC instead of $1000 for GAMI's. Yeah,
that's a great deal.

The FADEC system will not allow the engine to run in an condition that
will cause damage. If a CHT is too high or EGT too high guess what
happens. It INCREASES the fuel flow to that one cylinder to bring it
down.

FADEC can't adjust one cylinders fuel flow.

It can also retard the ignition on that one cylinder only to correct the
condition. It never LEANS further to cool cylinders or EGT temps.

What a marvel of Rube Goldberg engineering.

So, are they going to increase their warranties from nothing to something
now?

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote in message
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Allen wrote:



They are also multi-million dollar aircraft engine companies that
recommend against LOP operation. (Unless you are running a FADEC
system).

Yes, suddenly it's OK to run LOP when you give them $10K for their
FADEC.


That is because you have zero control over the fuel-air mixture, they
do.

Which isn't their argument now. They flat out say it isn't good for the
engine period.

That is correct, because you can't control the fuel flow to all cylinders
precisely enough.

Well, so lets put in $8000 for a FADEC instead of $1000 for GAMI's. Yeah,
that's a great deal.

The FADEC system will not allow the engine to run in an condition that
will cause damage. If a CHT is too high or EGT too high guess what
happens. It INCREASES the fuel flow to that one cylinder to bring it
down.

FADEC can't adjust one cylinders fuel flow.

You are absolutely wrong, it can and does. Time to do your homewrk and try
to comprehend, gullyboy.



It can also retard the ignition on that one cylinder only to correct the
condition. It never LEANS further to cool cylinders or EGT temps.

What a marvel of Rube Goldberg engineering.

So, are they going to increase their warranties from nothing to something
now?


Sounds like you have this aircraft engine thing figured out. Maybe instead
of building cheap houses you should be building cheap aircraft engines.

"A. Smith" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message

The FADEC system will not allow the engine to run in an condition that
will cause damage. If a CHT is too high or EGT too high guess what
happens. It INCREASES the fuel flow to that one cylinder to bring it
down.

FADEC can't adjust one cylinders fuel flow.

You are absolutely wrong, it can and does. Time to do your homewrk and
try to comprehend, gullyboy.

Cite? (that means you posta link, AKA a URL, not just barf something you
read in an advertisement.)


It can also retard the ignition on that one cylinder only to correct the
condition. It never LEANS further to cool cylinders or EGT temps.

What a marvel of Rube Goldberg engineering.

So, are they going to increase their warranties from nothing to something
now?


Sounds like you have this aircraft engine thing figured out.

Nope, but some experts who actually did tests on a 128 channel test stand
did.

Wrong again. So why not go abck to 2nd grade and relearn "reading
comprehension".



Maybe instead of building cheap houses you should be building cheap
aircraft engines.

The more you try your elementary school intimidation, the more you show just
how full of **** you are.

Maybe you should learn to analyze, rather than just puke back the manual ala
high school.

Face it, all you "know" is what some self-proclaimed expert and the FAA
shoved down your throat and you were too chicken to question it.

Oh, and your wonderful TCM and Lycomings that haven't been able to go past
800 hours without a TOH, yes, their advice has really worked well. And their
warranties are the epitome of honorable adherence to a contract.

So go back and read the Flying Mag ads. Punk!

"A. Smith" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Sounds like you have this aircraft engine thing figured out. Maybe
instead of building cheap houses you should be building cheap aircraft
engines.

Hey ****brains, my structural warranty claims, per unit, are one-third what
Richmond, US Home, and several others are. So evidently you know as much
about construction as you do about engines. Go back and read your magazine
ads.


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Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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"A. Smith" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Sounds like you have this aircraft engine thing figured out. Maybe
instead of building cheap houses you should be building cheap aircraft
engines.

Hey ****brains, my structural warranty claims, per unit, are one-third
what Richmond, US Home, and several others are. So evidently you know as
much about construction as you do about engines. Go back and read your
magazine ads.
--
Matt

Ah, profanity, the last resort of the mentally challenged. Maybe you should
take some time and collect your thoughts so you can reply in one post. Do
your own research, I have and I have seen FADEC in action. It works.